Don't Eat What God Hates. But Why?

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nathan3

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Josh321 said:
as phil stated, welcome to the new covenant :)

And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


and..

[h=3]1 Timothy 4:4-5[/h]King James Version (KJV)

4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
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The new covenant is Christ, who taught for us to obey God's laws. Where is it written, that food, was part of the old covenant ?


Also, Peter was taught not to call man ( gentiles ) common, or unclean , who through Christ are made clean : that message had nothing to do with food. The unclean food was used to illustrate a point to Peter who viewed the gentiles as common or unclean.


When it comes to food, God has made in His creation for human consumption food "to be received" & food"" Not, to be received". Those foods are listed in God's words, in His law.

Christ taught us to follow God's laws. That includes the health laws.
 
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dcontroversal said:
I am glad as I like bacon, pork chops, catfish, pork tenderloin on the grill and rabbit as well hahaha thank God
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:D eat brother eat! hehe, i'm not a pork person but i do eat ham on christmas time
 
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not only that is being fulfilled brother but despite it is written for everyone to plainly see

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.



sure everyone here can speak and english and understand it, but despite reading that some people can't accept it, why?

[h=3]2 Thessalonians 2:11[/h]King James Version (KJV)

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:



all i can say is...

[h=3]Matthew 11:25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
 
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RedTent said:
I do, but when you say replaced, from all your old posts you are meaning that it not only replaced the old priesthood, but that the old one has absolutely nothing to do with what the new one is like. I don't go along with the word replaced as you mean that word.
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Redtent, I'll have to challenge your accusation, ''that the old one has absolutely nothing to do with what the new one is like.''
Please provide proof or please quit accusing me of such nonsense.
 
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3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Food not, to be received is not the subject here in Timothy.

To learn which food is meant " to be received ", that is found in God's words, along with the food " not to be received" .
 
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I will enjoy the Passover Lamb and pass on the Ishtar Ham.
 
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nathan3 said:
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Food not, to be received is not the subject here in Timothy.

To learn which food is meant " to be received ", that is found in God's words, along with the food " not to be received" .
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I agree, pig, lobster, vultures were never meant to be food (received) they are for garbage disposal, one would have to not read the OT to ignore this fact.
 
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nathan3

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I would consider this scripture :

Isaiah 65

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65 I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.

2 I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts;

3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;

4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;

5 Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.



He made these food laws for a reason. And their not part of the old covenant . There part of God's words which Christ said are forever. I think we should have a open mind to God's words, and toss mans teachings out the window, that say we can eat anything.

Because they are misquoting and twisting of scripture to teach it, that among many things.
At the end of the day, its probably not a sin against the soul , but to your health. But isn't it just ignorant to ignore the warning, when its plainly written.
 
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Josh321 said:
not only that is being fulfilled brother but despite it is written for everyone to plainly see

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.



sure everyone here can speak and english and understand it, but despite reading that some people can't accept it, why?

2 Thessalonians 2:11

King James Version (KJV)

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:



all i can say is...

Matthew 11:25

King James Version (KJV)

25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
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SO knowing the truth is eating a meat that has trichinosis parasite in it ans 1oz a day is enough to increase the chance of pancreatic cancer by 50%?

Seems if all "foods" were made clean Messiah would have said this somewhere?
 
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nathan3 said:
I would consider this scripture :

Isaiah 65

King James Version (KJV)

65 I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.

2 I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts;

3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;

4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;

5 Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.



He made these food laws for a reason. And their not part of the old covenant . There part of God's words which Christ said are forever. I think we should have a open mind to God's words, and toss mans teachings out the window, that say we can eat anything. Because its a misquote and twisting of scripture to teach it, that among many things.
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Dont forget this one:

Isayah 66:17, "17 They who sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens, following after the one in the midst of those who eat swine's flesh, that which is offered to gods and the rodent--will be consumed together: says Yahweh."
 
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As missionaries, would any one here refuse the food offered them from an inquiring family.?
Would you let your petty food regulations get between you and the eternal well being of another's soul?
 
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nathan3 said:
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He made these food laws for a reason. And their not part of the old covenant . There part of God's words which Christ said are forever. I think we should have a open mind to God's words, and toss mans teachings out the window, that say we can eat anything.

Because they are misquoting and twisting of scripture to teach it, that among many things.
At the end of the day, its probably not a sin against the soul , but to your health. But isn't it just ignorant to ignore the warning, when its plainly written.
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So God erred when He gave us the new testament? What you are saying is blasphemous. The scripture is crystal clear. I neither twisted nor misquoted. You seriously need to re-examine whether or not you truly want to follow God. If you discount plain scripture, which you are doing, then you are rejecting Him.
 
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crossnote said:
As missionaries, would any one here refuse the food offered them from an inquiring family.?
Would you let your petty food regulations get between you and the eternal well being of another's soul?
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Those missionaries know full well the health problems the people they visit contend with, around the world, and would not think twice to refuse eating filth ..
They would follow God's health laws before they fall victim to heathen practices. Any Christian who is wise can polity refuse anything. And anyone that would insist their guest eat things they can't , can't be considered a good host.

I doubt highly anyone has refused Christ because their pork dish was refused. .Think of it this way, how much good could a disciple be if they cant follow God's words, and died from food poisoning God told them not to eat.
 
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crossnote said:
As missionaries, would any one here refuse the food offered them from an inquiring family.?
Would you let your petty food regulations get between you and the eternal well being of another's soul?
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Petty food regulations? My brother, (even tone here, I respect you) I would not call Yahweh's command petty, modern worldliness may call it petty but a follower should not IMO.

Leviticus 11:43-44, "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground."


with that said.

no I would witness, but I would refrain from eating, I can go a day or 2 with no food.
 
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How bout we just eat Locusts, and wild Honey, this is very scriptural, John did it, it must of been Kosher. Drink the water that comes from the rocks, and forget about all the rest of the foods. and pray for manna as some might be on that 40 year journey round the mountain , Richie did you bail from here, or sleep zzzzzz
 
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jkalyna said:
How bout we just eat Locusts, and wild Honey, this is very scriptural, John did it, it must of been Kosher. Drink the water that comes from the rocks, and forget about all the rest of the foods. and pray for manna as some might be on that 40 year journey round the mountain , Richie did you bail from here, or sleep zzzzzz
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Yes locusts and honey (bee vomit?) is kosher and sustained Jon the baptist. I love honey and I would not mind eating a locust, though I doubt I would want seconds.
 
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danschance said:
Yes locusts and honey (bee vomit?) is kosher and sustained Jon the baptist. I love honey and I would not mind eating a locust, though I doubt I would want seconds.
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Maybe smashed up and mixed with the honey?

A sweet treat that is also high in protein?

Yahchanan (John) was awesome!
 
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As missionaries, would any one here refuse the food offered them from an inquiring family.?
Would you let your petty food regulations get between you and the eternal well being of another's soul?
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I certainly would not refuse food offered to me if it meant I might offend anyone I was trying to convert to Christianity.

[h=3]1 Corinthians 9:19-23[/h]New American Standard Bible (NASB)

19 For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more.20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. 22 To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some. 23 I do all things for the sake of the gospel, so that I may become a fellow partaker of it.
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Hizikyah said:
Petty food regulations? My brother, (even tone here, I respect you) I would not call Yahweh's command petty, modern worldliness may call it petty but a follower should not IMO.

Leviticus 11:43-44, "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground."


with that said.

no I would witness, but I would refrain from eating, I can go a day or 2 with no food.
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Then wouldn't you be disobeying your Lord?

Luke 10:8 Whenever you enter a town and the people welcome you, eat what is set before you.
 
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nathan3 said:
Those missionaries know full well the health problems the people they visit contend with, around the world, and would not think twice to refuse eating filth ..
They would follow God's health laws before they fall victim to heathen practices. Any Christian who is wise can polity refuse anything. And anyone that would insist their guest eat things they can't , can't be considered a good host.

I doubt highly anyone has refused Christ because their pork dish was refused. .Think of it this way, how much good could a disciple be if they cant follow God's words, and died from food poisoning God told them not to eat.
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Then wouldn't you also be disobeying your Lord?

Luke 10:8 Whenever you enter a town and the people welcome you, eat what is set before you.
 
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