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Gen 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
What are you asking? Does the scripture really mean what it says? Or do you think that men's opinions crept in? Or do you think that if you don't like what a passage says, you can question it and change it?
I don't think you mean it that way, do you?
Gen 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
What are you asking? Does the scripture really mean what it says? Or do you think that men's opinions crept in? Or do you think that if you don't like what a passage says, you can question it and change it?
I don't think you mean it that way, do you?
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For a long time I was very confused about a lot of things I had learned in church growing up. It took a long road to get there, but I finally humbled myself to God, asked him to teach me the truths, and left myself open to receive them. Gradually, in something someone said or something I read, at random-unrelated times, I recognized the answers to my misconceptions.
What my Lord did over 2000 years ago was enough. When He said it is finished, His sacrifice changed the way I am viewed by God. (This applies to everyone! lol). God sees me only through Christ.
If I say I can't eat pork or I have to go to church so-many days a week, in order to please God. Then I am saying that Christ did not do enough! That there is something I must add or take away from what Jesus did. That I can do more than He did or that I am better than He is.
"I am the way, the truth, and the light. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6
Not that I don't want to please Him, I do. But what truly pleases Him I can only find by asking Him, by being hungry for his answer, and studying the Word. Not by someone else's doctrine, belief, or interpretation.
Praise be to God and my Lord and my Savior Jesus Christ!
What my Lord did over 2000 years ago was enough. When He said it is finished, His sacrifice changed the way I am viewed by God. (This applies to everyone! lol). God sees me only through Christ.
If I say I can't eat pork or I have to go to church so-many days a week, in order to please God. Then I am saying that Christ did not do enough! That there is something I must add or take away from what Jesus did. That I can do more than He did or that I am better than He is.
"I am the way, the truth, and the light. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6
Not that I don't want to please Him, I do. But what truly pleases Him I can only find by asking Him, by being hungry for his answer, and studying the Word. Not by someone else's doctrine, belief, or interpretation.
Praise be to God and my Lord and my Savior Jesus Christ!
R
And this still going on? even though I respectfully asked that you stop? Not only there are divisions, point scoring, there is disrespect too? And this is what you call Christian? Come on guys, truce, and lets call it an end. You all said you piece, however right or wrong you all are. Lets finish this thread on a good note.
Be thankful there is respect to be gained.
Be thankful there is respect to be gained.
S
These are also mentioned in Lev: 11.
There are reasons why The Almighty does not want us to eat these things. For instance, pigs are considered unclean because they eat waste so everything they consume we consume also ie. pigs eat feces even human flesh . Bottom feeders suc as fish with no scales and fins eat sea life waste also. Eating unclean animals and sea creatures contribute to our health as many end up with diabetes, hypertension, etc and iodine allergies. These are the curses applied to the foods that we eat. See the bible is not based on religion but as a guideline of how to live on earth. Simply deterring from these guidelines means death. The fall of Adam and Eve is a great example because they chose death soon as as they eat the forbidden fruit.
Notice the Most High initially gave these commandments to the children of Israel. The other nations always eat whatever because they did not receive the commandments. Ever since the true Hebrews were exiled in 70 AD, they were scattered among the other nations and have lost their identities are were made to assimilate to the other nations.
There are reasons why The Almighty does not want us to eat these things. For instance, pigs are considered unclean because they eat waste so everything they consume we consume also ie. pigs eat feces even human flesh . Bottom feeders suc as fish with no scales and fins eat sea life waste also. Eating unclean animals and sea creatures contribute to our health as many end up with diabetes, hypertension, etc and iodine allergies. These are the curses applied to the foods that we eat. See the bible is not based on religion but as a guideline of how to live on earth. Simply deterring from these guidelines means death. The fall of Adam and Eve is a great example because they chose death soon as as they eat the forbidden fruit.
Notice the Most High initially gave these commandments to the children of Israel. The other nations always eat whatever because they did not receive the commandments. Ever since the true Hebrews were exiled in 70 AD, they were scattered among the other nations and have lost their identities are were made to assimilate to the other nations.
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You are interpreting it incorrectly. The dream that was given to Peter was signifying him meeting Cornelius, who was considered unclean because he was a Gentile and that originally it was uncommon for a Jew to sit with another someone from another nation. This was made common because this vision was shown to Peter to teach Cornelius so he could go and teach to the Gentiles about Christ. This prophecy was fullfilled when Christ described how he came for the Jews first, then the Gentiles.
Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
Please read Acts 10:14-28.
Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
Please read Acts 10:14-28.
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Actually you are both right and wrong!
Peter's vision was about unclean food and this is often ignored by those who want to quickly skip to Cornelius.
Next Peter enters a Gentile home and says "God showed me I can't call any man unclean".
So how did Peter go from a vision of unclean food being called clean to gentiles no longer being called unclean? What is the common thread? The answer is very obvious. The concept of clean and unclean was no longer in play as the gospel was spreading swiftly thru the Gentiles. Had God kept the unclean/clean laws going it would of been a clear retarding issue for evangelism.
Peter's vision was about unclean food and this is often ignored by those who want to quickly skip to Cornelius.
Next Peter enters a Gentile home and says "God showed me I can't call any man unclean".
So how did Peter go from a vision of unclean food being called clean to gentiles no longer being called unclean? What is the common thread? The answer is very obvious. The concept of clean and unclean was no longer in play as the gospel was spreading swiftly thru the Gentiles. Had God kept the unclean/clean laws going it would of been a clear retarding issue for evangelism.
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I want to add something that is often over looked when discussing why God dictated a certain diet. This came from a Jewish friend of mine and is worth noting. First, of course God would give man a healthy diet as it would be sin for God to give us foods that not healthy. If this diet was purely for health God would have made their diet strictly vegetarian, the healthiest way to eat. One can hardly say beef is healthy when it is making cardiologists rich!
My Jewish friend said this (and hopefully I can do as good a job as he did). The Jewish dietary laws were based on the way the animal lived. Predators were forbidden because they hunted their prey. Other animals were forbidden because they lived a filthy life, such as pigs who wallowed in dirt and were fed spoiled foods. Scavengers fed off of dead animals and Jewish law forbade touch a corpse so these animals could never be considered food. Small animals that scurried around the dirt also lived a filthy life and many were predatory or scavengers.
Jesus said to the Pharisees, "You search the scriptures(OT) because in them you think are eternal life, but they testify about me!". This means all of the OT is about Christ. This means the kosher dietary laws are also about Christ not health, per se. When we get to Heaven we will be told all about the bible and how it relates to Christ. Clearly we can see that Christ was not predatory in any way. He was a scavenger. He was not a person to beg for scrapes like a dog. What does the kosher food represent? I can only guess but when I get to Heaven, I will know.
My Jewish friend said this (and hopefully I can do as good a job as he did). The Jewish dietary laws were based on the way the animal lived. Predators were forbidden because they hunted their prey. Other animals were forbidden because they lived a filthy life, such as pigs who wallowed in dirt and were fed spoiled foods. Scavengers fed off of dead animals and Jewish law forbade touch a corpse so these animals could never be considered food. Small animals that scurried around the dirt also lived a filthy life and many were predatory or scavengers.
Jesus said to the Pharisees, "You search the scriptures(OT) because in them you think are eternal life, but they testify about me!". This means all of the OT is about Christ. This means the kosher dietary laws are also about Christ not health, per se. When we get to Heaven we will be told all about the bible and how it relates to Christ. Clearly we can see that Christ was not predatory in any way. He was a scavenger. He was not a person to beg for scrapes like a dog. What does the kosher food represent? I can only guess but when I get to Heaven, I will know.
My fault:
So Kepha didnt understand the meaning of the vision:
Acts 10:17, "Now while Kepha was wondering within himself what this vision which he had seen meant, behold, the men who
had been sent from Cornelius had asked where Simon's house was, and stood in front of the gate."
and then it is explained BY YAHWEH:
Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but Yahweh has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."
How is this about food in any way shape or form? Using this "a vision has its literal meaning and a revealed meaning" is there a literal 7 headed beast and a metaphorical one? Or is the 7 heads just a metaphor and it only has one meaning?
You are stretching Scripture to the point of ridiculousness.
and the next post, saying "If this diet was purely for health God would have made their diet strictly vegetarian" is a false pretense, if this were true we would only be able to eat 1 or 2 of the HEALTHIEST foods and all else would be forbidden because it is not as healthy. You are taking a fabricated precept to prove a false doctrine.
The clean and unclean laws are about being healthy and not being sick. Everything you made up about some hidden meaning about them is a sad attempt to justify your ignoring of those Laws.
This is exactly what the pharisees did, that I had just explained to you about how they made some made up reason to miss the entire point that a Law was made by Yahweh.
Ohh, and they are not "jewish dietary laws" they were ordained by Yahweh for Hebrew and Gentile alike.
Leviticus 11:1-2,43-44, "And Yahweh spoke to Mosheh and Aaron, saying to them: Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; These are the animals you may eat among all the beasts upon the land." "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground."
Numbers 15:15-16, "One ordinance shall be for you of the congregation, and for the stranger who sojourns with you, as an ordinance forever throughout your generations. As you are, so shall the stranger be in front of Yahweh. One Law and one manner shall be for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you."
Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though Yahweh's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are Yahweh's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."
Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is Yahweh our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."
So Kepha didnt understand the meaning of the vision:
Acts 10:17, "Now while Kepha was wondering within himself what this vision which he had seen meant, behold, the men who
had been sent from Cornelius had asked where Simon's house was, and stood in front of the gate."
and then it is explained BY YAHWEH:
Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but Yahweh has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."
How is this about food in any way shape or form? Using this "a vision has its literal meaning and a revealed meaning" is there a literal 7 headed beast and a metaphorical one? Or is the 7 heads just a metaphor and it only has one meaning?
You are stretching Scripture to the point of ridiculousness.
and the next post, saying "If this diet was purely for health God would have made their diet strictly vegetarian" is a false pretense, if this were true we would only be able to eat 1 or 2 of the HEALTHIEST foods and all else would be forbidden because it is not as healthy. You are taking a fabricated precept to prove a false doctrine.
The clean and unclean laws are about being healthy and not being sick. Everything you made up about some hidden meaning about them is a sad attempt to justify your ignoring of those Laws.
This is exactly what the pharisees did, that I had just explained to you about how they made some made up reason to miss the entire point that a Law was made by Yahweh.
Ohh, and they are not "jewish dietary laws" they were ordained by Yahweh for Hebrew and Gentile alike.
Leviticus 11:1-2,43-44, "And Yahweh spoke to Mosheh and Aaron, saying to them: Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; These are the animals you may eat among all the beasts upon the land." "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground."
Numbers 15:15-16, "One ordinance shall be for you of the congregation, and for the stranger who sojourns with you, as an ordinance forever throughout your generations. As you are, so shall the stranger be in front of Yahweh. One Law and one manner shall be for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you."
Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though Yahweh's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are Yahweh's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."
Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is Yahweh our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."