Friday crucifixion?

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Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

The sabbath... was this the weekly sabbath or a cerimonial sabbath?

Because it states THE sabbath I would say the weekly. And...
Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Luk 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

This clearly shows that for the seventh day sabbath Jesus was resting (dead).

On the 1st day Jesus went back to work..
But Mark 16:1 says, "When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him." That says that they bought the spices after the Sabbath.
 
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[QUOTE="Randy4u2c, post: 5537875, member: 318494
Christ was in the tomb 3 days, Wednesday at sundown began Thursday, day 1. Thursdays at sundown began Friday, day 2. Friday at sundown began Saturday, day 3. Saturday at sundown was the end of the 3 days. He rose sometime after 6pm on Saturday.
So, does that mean that He rose on Sunday?[/QUOTE]

Sometime after Saturday at 6pm would be the start of Sunday so yes.
 
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IMO it was Friday/

Just as Adam was made on the sixth day and a blood sacrifice in which animal skins made clothing for Adam and Eve, I believe it had to be a friday to end it on the day it was started 4000 years later.
it does make sense that the covering of Adam and Eve took place on the day of Pascha, but Adam didn't fall on the day he was created, so I don't see a reason to think it was a 6th day of a seven.
 
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#85
If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and buried, and Thursday was the day of rest being the 1st day of the feast of unleavened bread, then the first opportunity for the women to anoint Jesus' body is Friday. But they didn't go to Jesus' tomb until the first day of the week (Sunday).

I think of the expression 3 days and 3 nights to mean 3 days and nights, as opposed to 3 days, and excluding the nights. It's like the difference between Jesus fasting 40 days and 40 nights vs. Muslims fasting during the month of Ramadan but eating at night. I don't think it needs to mean 72 hours.

Matthew 27:62 talks about "the next day" and Matthew 27:64 talks about "the third day".

Cleopas said on the road to Emmaus to the risen Jesus that it was the third day since Jesus was crucified (Luke 24:21)
 

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#86
I think you're saying that the night count began on Thursday night when the Messiah was arrested and ended with the night time of Sunday. If so, that would mean four night times were involved and not three.
You can't count or read very well, brother.
 

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Apparently not. So, if you weren't saying that the night count started on Thursday night, with the count ending during the night time on Sunday, what were you saying?
Arrested and taken to the temple mount on what we call Thursday night after midnight. Ascended from the temple mount after meeting Mary Magdalene on Sunday morning.

Thursday part night + Friday night + Saturday night = 3 nights by Jewish inclusive reckoning (reckoning a part as a whole).
Friday day + Saturday day + Sunday part day = 3 days by Jewish inclusive reckoning.
 
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Arrested and taken to the temple mount on what we call Thursday night after midnight. Ascended from the temple mount after meeting Mary Magdalene on Sunday morning.

Thursday part night + Friday night + Saturday night = 3 nights by Jewish inclusive reckoning (reckoning a part as a whole).
Friday day + Saturday day + Sunday part day = 3 days by Jewish inclusive reckoning.
I guess I must have been off sick on the day that reading comprehension was covered in class, because I can't understand what your saying.
 
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This is the same arrangement as the festival of unleavened bread

Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath. Leviticus 23:39
Plus the weekly sabbath.

three sabbaths in the Paschal week, the two written here in Leviticus are the 'high' sabbaths.

Christ ate Seder on a Tuesday, and was crucified on a Wednesday, at exactly the time the national passover lamb was slain in the temple. He rose on the third day, in the night, in the beginning of an 8th day, Firstfruits, which is not a sabbath.

the women came to look for Him as dawn was rising, but the angel told them The Daystar had already risen.

likely times for His rising up and folding His face cloth are midnight and 3am - reccomended if you're into origami ;)
 
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It is conceivable that Christ was crucified on a Weds, buried at sunset, which was Thurs, spent Thurs, Fri and Sat in the tomb and was raised on Saturday evening, which was really the beginning of the first day of the week, Sunday
According to Jewish laws, burials had to be before sundown, IIRC. That is why they broke the legs of crucified people, so they would die before sundown.
So the day of his crucifixion should count as one day in the grave.
Thursday crucifixion works, time wise, I think. Thurs, Fri, Sat... three days in the grave. Jesus rose before sunup on Sunday.
 
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According to Jewish laws, burials had to be before sundown, IIRC. That is why they broke the legs of crucified people, so they would die before sundown.
So the day of his crucifixion should count as one day in the grave.
Thursday crucifixion works, time wise, I think. Thurs, Fri, Sat... three days in the grave. Jesus rose before sunup on Sunday.
Well let's see:
Entombed Thursday afternoon - calendar day1, daytime 1.
In tomb Friday - calendar day 2, night time 1, daytime 2.
In tomb Saturday - calendar day 3, night time 2, daytime 3.
In tomb Sunday- calendar day 4, night time 3.
So, 4 calendar days are involved in the grave and not just 3.
 
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According to Jewish laws, burials had to be before sundown, IIRC. That is why they broke the legs of crucified people, so they would die before sundown.
So the day of his crucifixion should count as one day in the grave.
Thursday crucifixion works, time wise, I think. Thurs, Fri, Sat... three days in the grave. Jesus rose before sunup on Sunday.
Yes, the Jews customarily must put a body in the tomb before sundown
No, He wasn't in the grave the whole day Wednesday.
And so also He didn't rise immediately at sunset on Sunday ((Saturday night, gentile time)) - -

-- God is really good at math. He invented it. He said 3 nights, 3 days

this is why a 3am Sunday resurrection is not a bad guess
 
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Well let's see:
Entombed Thursday afternoon - calendar day1, daytime 1.
In tomb Friday - calendar day 2, night time 1, daytime 2.
In tomb Saturday - calendar day 3, night time 2, daytime 3.
In tomb Sunday- calendar day 4, night time 3.
So, 4 calendar days are involved in the grave and not just 3.
the idea that 10 seconds of a day equals a whole day, isn't a particularly good idea.


question:

  • was Christ entombed at exactly sunset, to the smallest possible fraction of a nanosecond? As omniscient God measures infinitely small fractions of nanosecond?
  • what determines exact sundown? when the last photon leaves the sun, when that photon hits the earth, when that photon is reflected and hits the eye of someone in Jerusalem?
  • Who can answer these questions? you? or only God?
 
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@rstrats

What if Joseph sealed the tomb 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds before sundown?

does that count as a day?
((you say))

Who can measure that?

Heisenburg?

lol. OK so where was Jesus?
 
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@rstrats

What if Joseph sealed the tomb 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds before sundown?

does that count as a day?
((you say))

Who can measure that?

Heisenburg?

lol. OK so where was Jesus?

@cv5

you'll like the 'simplicity' of this :love:
 

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@rstrats

What if Joseph sealed the tomb 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds before sundown?

does that count as a day?
((you say))

Who can measure that?

Heisenburg?

lol. OK so where was Jesus?
God, being the ultimate observer, also possess the most accurate internal/external timekeeping capabilities.

We can trust His timekeeping abilities.
I mean.....who else can you trust lol.