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rogerg

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To all these Calvinists who are pushing this "choice vs. free will" nonsense remember this verse:

Matthew 23:37
New International Version

37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.

There is no point in the Bible even being written if we do not have a free choice in the matter.

Your words are but philosophical gobbledygook.
[Luk 13:34 KJV] 34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen [doth gather] her brood under [her] wings, and ye would not!

What does "your house is left unto you desolate" mean?

[Luk 13:35 KJV] 35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until [the time] come when ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
 

Rufus

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"If God must regenerate people before they can believe the gospel, then the invitation is not really to all people, but only to those already born again. "
Whoever wrote the above must have never read the Parable of the Banquet (Lk 14:16-24).
 
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The message of the Gospel is light.

Sadly as someone once stated, in their attempt to honor God, they make foolishness of the whole thing.
The natural man hates the light as a lover of darkness and refuses to come into the light.

Shame on you. Really, get a clue. And maybe read the Bible. With your eyes open.


The gospel is foolishness to the natural man, since he can neither accept nor comprehend the spiritual things of God. It is impossible for his incurably wicked heart to grow the seed of God’s Word into the good fruit of faith while he is captive to the will of the devil. Along with the rest of the world who does not know God, he is blinded to the truth and under the power and influence of Satan, rendered incapable of submitting to or obeying God, with Whom he is inherently hostile toward in his mind, for he craves what is contrary to the Spirit. He suppresses the truth in unrighteousness, refusing to come into the light because he is a slave to sin, a lover of darkness, defined as darkness itself, and his deeds are evil.