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Being catholic does not make you a bad person. However the catholic church does not teach the truth. They believe and practice stuff that's not in the bible. praying to Mary? God never told us to pray to Mary. You're only supposed to pray to god. The pope claims to be infallible. That's blasphemous!! Jesus is the only one who never sinned. I also have a problem with the way they do their communion services. Why Are they using real wine?? What if someone in their church was struggling with addiction to alcohol. You don't confess your sins to man. Jesus is our high priest so you confess sins to him. You can pray a thousand hail Mary, but if you're not born again you ain't going to heaven. I know plenty of ex-catholics who are now born again Christians. People need to read and study the bible so they won't be deceived by all these false religions. Satan has power but he can't compete with the king of kings. Jesus kicked the devil butt at calvary. He conquered death hell and the grave. Thank you and have a nice day in the name of Jesus. To god be the glory. Preacha24-7
 
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At the risk of repeating my self excessively: Grace is God's recognition of someone desiring fellowship with Him. The forgiveness of being under the false doctoral of man. If you are looking to God as a friend, grace is yours. If you are looking to God for something for you that you want out of God you are a goat. If you want something from God for someone else, you are practicing the heart of God.
Be Blessed


Being catholic does not make you a bad person. However the catholic church does not teach the truth. They believe and practice stuff that's not in the bible. praying to Mary? God never told us to pray to Mary. You're only supposed to pray to god. The pope claims to be infallible. That's blasphemous!! Jesus is the only one who never sinned. I also have a problem with the way they do their communion services. Why Are they using real wine?? What if someone in their church was struggling with addiction to alcohol. You don't confess your sins to man. Jesus is our high priest so you confess sins to him. You can pray a thousand hail Mary, but if you're not born again you ain't going to heaven. I know plenty of ex-catholics who are now born again Christians. People need to read and study the bible so they won't be deceived by all these false religions. Satan has power but he can't compete with the king of kings. Jesus kicked the devil butt at calvary. He conquered death hell and the grave. Thank you and have a nice day in the name of Jesus. To god be the glory. Preacha24-7
 
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This is a reply to: Rockbysea:

You can’t die with God because God is not dead even though the pope carries around a dead Jesus on a bowed crucifix it’s not a true depiction of Christ.

So Christ did not die or Christ is not God?

The children of God are not dead to Christ while in this earthly tent ...
I never said children of God were dead TO Christ, I said they are dead IN Christ.

“dead in Christ” and “following Jesus into a sacrificial death” are not scriptural and very dead sounding.
"take up your cross and follow me." Jesus Christ circa 30ad

The same way God makes the plants grow over time His children grow over time as the sinful nature diminishes and the child becomes more and more like the First Born.
"as the sinful nature diminishes", It appears now from your replies that you are merely contending with me because I am catholic and have a preconceived belief that I am in error. I have never once said that christians are not growing in grace or remaining slaves to sin.

But sinners like to use this against those who expose truth knowing that no one can say while they are in the flesh they are perfect.
So you see me as a sinner outside of Christ trying to lead others astray?

I did not realize this is how you felt, I will not bother you any longer.

Kyrie eleison, Christe eleison, Kyrie eleison


 
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Rockbysea: To those whom the Lord has revealed Himself, know their sins as sins they never noticed before and because they stand now on the surety of God rather then faith in God, make the once unnoticed as monumental and ourselves so in need of God's mercy.
when a child of God comes to know their sins that they never noticed before he does not turn them into a monument but by the power of the Holy Spirit he repents, uproots them and throws them into the fire thus expressing his gratitude towards God for His mercy.
 
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Paul labeled himself chief among sinners due to his humility. I never said he stopped sinning. None of us have on this earth, no matter how pious we pretend to be. That is a pharisaical attitude, if one believes they have reached perfection here, while judging the lives of others. The point is, we all are the chief among sinners. Sin is sin. There is only one sin that is unpardonable, and that is blasphemy of Holy Spirit. All sin has the same wage and all of us are sinners and all of us are guilty. Saying that Paul is the chief among sinners is trying to either glorify him and his life or take the burden off one's own sin and guilt. Paul stated it because he felt the weight of his sin and the fact that it cost Jesus His life. As I said, there is no chief of sinners among the race of mankind. We are all receiving the same end: eternal separation from God and the lake of fire UNLESS we have accepted Christ as our Savior, Lord and King and are seeking His face and will and to obey Him. As Romans 12:1 says, making our bodies living sacrifices unto God. Not once or twice but every single day.

Paul was a great man, but he never sought to be worshipped, yet many make the mistake of worshipping him. Dangerous thing to do, when you consider he was a sinful man, just as we are all sinful creatures.

Anyone who is continuing to commit sins that lead to death is not born of God. Not all sin is the same and John pointed that out. And all through the scriptures it teaches to be Christ-like and that means to walk as He walked. One cannot walk as Christ and continue to commit sins that lead to death. Paul was humbling himself when he said that and was not perfect but he was not committing sins that lead to death. And because I say this does not mean I'm worshiping Paul.


And the righteousness of those born of God must exceed that of the Pharisees otherwise they will not enter the kingdom of God. And that righteousness can only be achieved by the transforming power of the Holy Spirit.
 
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God wants to make a personal covenant and relationship with each person, and wants to dwell within their hearts and souls.
He is the Eternal crator of love, that is his name and his character, and he yearns to have you speak to him and submit your heart to him

This is a non-large church doctrine that NO church teaches because the enemy has taken over all churches that USED to teach personal relationships, to block this infinite power to come into you.
Placing a mediator (a person to come between you and God) defeats the whole purpose of Jesus coming to have a relationship with you.

The Bible is the word of God to YOU and that is always blocked

I need to say no more than this:

God wante you to tread the Bible as his unalterable true word of God to you, and each promise is YOURS

Read exodus 34

He wants to make a covenant with you
He made on with Adam, eve, abel, Noah Moses Daniel all the disciples, David and all those who kneel before him and give them their hearts.

The devil rules with fear.
With eternal burning hell with non0existant purgatory, Jesus paid for your sins, he does not like us to suffer for him to buy his love, this is pagan mythology
They used to offer sacrifices of their own children to appease Molech

this is the pagan religion they are afraid of God
Pagans believed in hades where people are tortured forever.
Pagans believe in fear, that God is just looking for a reason to send you to hell

this is the religion of the Devil

God is not a perverted psychopath that likes to torture people excruciatingly forever and ever and ever and ever.

The people who teach this do not know God
They do not know God
They are not in love with him
You cannot cannot cannot love such a God
no way

that is why that doctrine was invented by the devil
so you could never love him truly

If you married a king of Burma and he delighted each evening to go into his dungeon and torture and kill small children, you could not love this man

and the devil knows it
you would be lying

Be assured there is no puragatory
no ever present hell

and there is punishment for wicked but it is not for months and years or eternity, it is just for what each person did
then they are gone forever.

So,
Stay home
get your Bible out
and read it
in that book is a very different God than you have come to imagine,
get rid of the horrible God
and get ready for a majestic love God who created all things just so he could love each person to the max

I will give you this snippet of who God really is

we need to respect him

those who do not bow down and worship and give their hearts to him in the temple do not know him.

I stayed home until I read my Bible through as if Jesus himself was talking to me
it is a wonderful relationship when you accept him as your husband.

Yes,
he wants to marry you
for
eternity

awesome.

Here is Gods true name.

1 And YAHWEH said to Moses, Cut
out for yourself two tablets of stone,
like the former. And I will write on the
tablets the words which were on the
former tablet, which you broke.
2 And be prepared in the morning,
and go up in the morning to Mount
Sinai. And place yourself there by Me,
on the top of the mountain.
3 And a man shall not go up with
you. And also let no man be seen on all
the mountain. Also do not allow the
flocks and the herds to feed before that
mountain.
4 And he cut out two tablets of stone
like the former. And Moses rose early
in the morning and went up into
Mount Sinai, as YAHWEH had
commanded him. And he took in his
hand the two tablets of stone.
5 And YAHWEH came down in the
cloud. And he placed himself there
with Him, and he called on the name
of YAHWEH.
6 And YAHWEH passed by before his
face and called out: YAHWEH!
YAHWEH Elohim! Merciful and
gracious, slow to anger, and great in
goodness and truth,
7 keeping mercy for thousands,
forgiving iniquity and transgression
and sin, and not leaving entirely Exodus
unpunished, visiting the iniquity of
fathers on sons, and on sons of sons,
to the third and to the fourth
generation.
8 And Moss hurried and bowed to
the earth and worshiped.
9 And he said, If now I have found
favor in Your eyes, O YAHWEH, please
let my Adonai go in our midst, for it is
a stiffnecked people; and You forgive
our iniquity and our sin, and take us as
a possession.
10 And He said, Behold, I am cutting a covenant;
I will do wonderful things
before all your people which not have
been done in all the earth, and among
all nations. And all the people in
whose midst you are shall see the
work of YAHWEH, for that which I am
about to do is awesome.
11 Take heed for yourself what I am
commanding you today.
Behold, I am
about to drive out from before your
face the Amorite, and the Canaanite,
and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and
the Hivite, and the Jebusite.
12 Take heed to yourself, that you
not cut a covenant with the people of
the land to which you are going in,
that it not be a snare in your midst.
13 But you shall cut down their
altars, break their pillars, and you
shall cut off their Asherahs.
14 For you shall not bow to another
Elohim, for YAHWEH whose name is
Jealous, He is a jealous Elohim;
15 that you not cut a covenant with
the people of the land, and they
fornicate with their Elohims, and they
call to you, and you eat from his
sacrifice;
16 and you take from their daughters
for your sons, and their daughters
fornicate with their Elohims, and they
lead your sons to fornicate with their
Elohims. (Deut 7:3-4, 1Kgs 11:1-6)
17 You shall not make for yourself
casted Elohims.
(idols, images to pray to, this nullifies your contract)


22 And you shall observe a Feast of
Weeks for yourself, the first-fruits of
the harvest of wheat; also the Feast of
Ingathering after the turn of the year 1 .
23 Three times in the year every
male of yours shall be seen before the
face of Adonai YAHWEH, the Elohim
of Israel.

Write these words for yourself, for on
the mouth of these words I will cut a
covenant with you and with Israel 1 .
28 And he was there with YAHWEH
forty days and forty nights; he did not
eat bread and he did not drink water.
And He wrote on the tablets the words
of the covenant, the Ten Words.
29 And it happened as Moses was
going down from Mount Sinai, the two
tablets of the testimony being in
Moses' hand as he went down from the
mountain, Moses did not know that
the skin of his face had become shiny
through His speaking with him.
30 And Aaron and all the sons of
Israel saw Moses. And, behold! The
skin of his face shone. And they were
afraid to draw near to him.
31 And Moses called to them. And
Aaron and all the leaders among the
congregation turned back to him. And
Moses spoke to them.
32 And afterwards all the sons of
Israel drew near. And he commanded
them all that which YAHWEH had
spoken with him in Mount Sinai.
33 And Moses finished speaking
with them, and he put a veil on his
face.
34 And as Moses came in before
YAHWEH to speak with Him, he took
off the veil until he went out 2 . And he
would go out and speak to the sons of
Israel that which he was commanded.
35 And the sons of Israel would see
the face of Moses, that the skin of
Moses' face shone. And Moses would
put back the veil on his face until he
went in to speak with Him.

So the enemy invented a religion that does things that breaks your personal covenant with God so that he withdraws,
and the tells people they cannot have a personal relationship with God and puts priests in the midst of them
so they dare not approach them
and then he tells them if they dont toe the line they will automatically burn forever
effectually cutting off all possibility of getting to know God.

Those who each day have the purest hearts and want to love God worship their images every day and even put them in their houses, so the pure hearts are blocked even more...

But God sees the real heart
he knows those who WOULD have a relationship with him if they just had all the lies removed

The only way to remove the lies
is get a Bible you like
stay home
tell no one
and pray that God will read it to you and help you see
and read it from Genesis to Revelation

Believing that you are supposed to read the old testament as Jesus told us to read the scriptures (he only had the old testament

and the new testament
and the book of Paul and revelation and all the books that you were told were no good anymore

for they are good.
God bless you in finding your bridegroom

Song 3:2 I will rise now, and go about the city in the streets, and in the broad ways I will seek him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not.
Song 3:3 The watchmen that go about the city found me: to whom I said, Saw ye him whom my soul loveth?
Song 3:4 It was but a little that I passed from them, but I found him whom my soul loveth: I held him, and would not let him go, until I had brought him into my mother's house, and into the chamber of her that conceived me.


I will tell you

I found him
and I love him
and I will not burn in hell forever for finding him in the Bible.
Peace

1 Pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
1 Pet 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 Pet 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
1 Pet 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1 Pet 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1 Pet 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Pet 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
1 Pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
 
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How hyper spiritual a stance: I presume by your statement one of two things: You did not clearly read my post or you have achieved perfection and confessed all. By the way: did you know that the Bible calls our disobedience to man's laws as sin? Did you know that to exceed the speed limit is to violate mans law? Do we speed unto death in the spiritual sense? We should be careful not to judge ourselves too lightly.

when a child of God comes to know their sins that they never noticed before he does not turn them into a monument but by the power of the Holy Spirit he repents, uproots them and throws them into the fire thus expressing his gratitude towards God for His mercy.
 
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Please point out were John points out the difference in sins.




Anyone who is continuing to commit sins that lead to death is not born of God. Not all sin is the same and John pointed that out. And all through the scriptures it teaches to be Christ-like and that means to walk as He walked. One cannot walk as Christ and continue to commit sins that lead to death. Paul was humbling himself when he said that and was not perfect but he was not committing sins that lead to death. And because I say this does not mean I'm worshiping Paul.


And the righteousness of those born of God must exceed that of the Pharisees otherwise they will not enter the kingdom of God. And that righteousness can only be achieved by the transforming power of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Being catholic does not make you a bad person. However the catholic church does not teach the truth. They believe and practice stuff that's not in the bible. praying to Mary? ...
Not only do they pray Mary, but they also called her the “Queen of Heaven”.

Israel too worshipped the Queen of Heaven but was punished by God (see Jer. 44:15-etc.)

Are you not ashamed, you who are catholic christians of such idolatry?
 
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Not only do they pray Mary, but they also called her the “Queen of Heaven”.

Israel too worshipped the Queen of Heaven but was punished by God (see Jer. 44:15-etc.)

Are you not ashamed, you who are catholic christians of such idolatry?

I am not ashamed to call Mary the mother of God. Mary was married to God when the Holy Spirit conceived within her the Son of God. Did not Mary and God become one flesh at the moment Jesus was conceived? Would not Mary be an adulteress if after becoming one flesh with God, to then have sexual relations with Josepeh? The teachings about Mary are based on scriptural truth: her being the mother of God, her perpetual virginity (ever virgin), her immaculate conception, the Catholic Church did not first say that Mary was full of grace. God said it. You seek to diminish the postion Mary has obtained by the grace of God. God created Mary and made her the mother of God. Are you jealous of Mary? Do you think God loves you less than Mary? Jesus said "who is my mother? Who are my brothers? ..." God loves everyone just as much as he loves Mary. Is it not God who creates each of his vessels? So God created Mary unique and lifted her up to forever be the mother of God. God loves you just as much as he loves Mary. God wants us all to be his bride as Mary is.
The catholic church's adoration of Mary is repugnant to many outside the church, and perhaps some do neglect their worship of God to adore Mary rather than God, and this would be anathema. But most Catholics do not do such a thing, most Catholics love and adore God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ by the grace of the Holy Spirit.
Catholics do not worship Mary as God. Catholics venerate Mary because of the grace God filled her with at her conception.
May God fill us all with the grace he bestowed on to Mary at her conception.

Christ be with you always.
 
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I am not ashamed to call Mary the mother of God. Mary was married to God when the Holy Spirit conceived within her the Son of God. Did not Mary and God become one flesh at the moment Jesus was conceived? Would not Mary be an adulteress if after becoming one flesh with God, to then have sexual relations with Josepeh? The teachings about Mary are based on scriptural truth: her being the mother of God, her perpetual virginity (ever virgin), her immaculate conception, the Catholic Church did not first say that Mary was full of grace. God said it. You seek to diminish the postion Mary has obtained by the grace of God. God created Mary and made her the mother of God. Are you jealous of Mary? Do you think God loves you less than Mary? Jesus said "who is my mother? Who are my brothers? ..." God loves everyone just as much as he loves Mary. Is it not God who creates each of his vessels? So God created Mary unique and lifted her up to forever be the mother of God. God loves you just as much as he loves Mary. God wants us all to be his bride as Mary is.
The catholic church's adoration of Mary is repugnant to many outside the church, and perhaps some do neglect their worship of God to adore Mary rather than God, and this would be anathema. But most Catholics do not do such a thing, most Catholics love and adore God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ by the grace of the Holy Spirit.
Catholics do not worship Mary as God. Catholics venerate Mary because of the grace God filled her with at her conception.
May God fill us all with the grace he bestowed on to Mary at her conception.

Christ be with you always.
The immaculate conception is wrong, because she was born naturally, not like Jesus. Her parents were Joaquim and Ana.
 
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I am not ashamed to call Mary the mother of God. Mary was married to God when the Holy Spirit conceived within her the Son of God. Did not Mary and God become one flesh at the moment Jesus was conceived? Would not Mary be an adulteress if after becoming one flesh with God, to then have sexual relations with Josepeh? The teachings about Mary are based on scriptural truth: her being the mother of God, her perpetual virginity (ever virgin).
I agree with that. Ezekiel 44,2 "Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut."
 
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It is the teachers whom are held to a higher standard, thank God for the grace that saves the hearts searching for Him.


Not only do they pray Mary, but they also called her the “Queen of Heaven”.

Israel too worshipped the Queen of Heaven but was punished by God (see Jer. 44:15-etc.)

Are you not ashamed, you who are catholic christians of such idolatry?
 
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Not only do they pray Mary, but they also called her the “Queen of Heaven”.

Israel too worshipped the Queen of Heaven but was punished by God (see Jer. 44:15-etc.)

Are you not ashamed, you who are catholic christians of such idolatry?
Israel worshiped Ishtar, the goddess of love and fertility, not Saint Mary.
 
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Do you think God actually had sex with Mary?!! Must you equate all things to human standards? Must you presume to know God's heart concerning such things? Did not the Lord invite us to come before God by Him, never mentioning His mother?


I am not ashamed to call Mary the mother of God. Mary was married to God when the Holy Spirit conceived within her the Son of God. Did not Mary and God become one flesh at the moment Jesus was conceived? Would not Mary be an adulteress if after becoming one flesh with God, to then have sexual relations with Josepeh? The teachings about Mary are based on scriptural truth: her being the mother of God, her perpetual virginity (ever virgin), her immaculate conception, the Catholic Church did not first say that Mary was full of grace. God said it. You seek to diminish the postion Mary has obtained by the grace of God. God created Mary and made her the mother of God. Are you jealous of Mary? Do you think God loves you less than Mary? Jesus said "who is my mother? Who are my brothers? ..." God loves everyone just as much as he loves Mary. Is it not God who creates each of his vessels? So God created Mary unique and lifted her up to forever be the mother of God. God loves you just as much as he loves Mary. God wants us all to be his bride as Mary is.
The catholic church's adoration of Mary is repugnant to many outside the church, and perhaps some do neglect their worship of God to adore Mary rather than God, and this would be anathema. But most Catholics do not do such a thing, most Catholics love and adore God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ by the grace of the Holy Spirit.
Catholics do not worship Mary as God. Catholics venerate Mary because of the grace God filled her with at her conception.
May God fill us all with the grace he bestowed on to Mary at her conception.

Christ be with you always.
 
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Do you think God actually had sex with Mary?!! Must you equate all things to human standards? Must you presume to know God's heart concerning such things? Did not the Lord invite us to come before God by Him, never mentioning His mother?
???? Is that what you understood he said?
Mary is mysteriously both the mother of God and His bride. Just like Jesus Christ is mysteriously present in the Saint Eucharist. No wonder that at the last supper a lot of men stumbled when He said eat my body and drink my blood. I guess they took His words the same way you did in this post...
 
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Do you think God actually had sex with Mary?!! Must you equate all things to human standards? Must you presume to know God's heart concerning such things? Did not the Lord invite us to come before God by Him, never mentioning His mother?
I never said God had sexual intercourse with Mary, I said she is perpetually virgin. She never had sexual intercourse with anyone.
 
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Do you think God actually had sex with Mary?!! Must you equate all things to human standards? Must you presume to know God's heart concerning such things? Did not the Lord invite us to come before God by Him, never mentioning His mother?
God invited us to come before him through Jesus Christ our Lord, who came to this world through Mary (Theotokos) the mother of God. You do not need to go through Mary to get to God, God came to you through Mary.
What is so hard for you to understand, Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ and we are all called to be one with Christ, is not Mary the mother of all christians? are we not one with Christ? Recognizing the position of Mary within the faith does not take away from Jesus Christ or God the Father. Mary is who she is because God created her to be who she is. You denying what God has plainly done does not make it undone.