Israel.

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

After this latest exchange of attacks between the IDF and the IRGC, hundreds and hundreds of Jewish people fled the land because their homes were destroyed, and they flew elsewhere to other countries. Many of them began purchasing land on the Island of Cyprus, so much so that the Cyprus government began decrying the situation, fearing they're about to experience what the Palestinians have been going through since 1948.

It got to be so bad that the gov't banned anyone from leaving by plane. So people started hiring private boats to take them to Cyprus and leaving through the Egyptian border.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

So you live in an area where there are no Jewish people, or none that you know.

I've lived around Jewish people a good portion of my life. I attended a messianic congregation when I lived out west.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

It never really mattered that the devil or others had ill intentions for Israel

Of course it matters! The devil wants to destroy God's chosen people as much as any Christian.

The Almighty isn't a liar and isn't a bad parent. He disciplines, He does not spoil, and He keeps His word. He's not going to give them back the land in disobedience to Him when it was that very same disobedience that led Him to strip the land from them because like you said, "God doesn't change".

You're both right and wrong here. The covenant made with Abraham was unconditional and everlasting. Other covenants were conditional. That's why they lost use of the land. But they never lost the deed because God made that covenant with Israel.

Yes, the Almighty doesn't change, and this is why the OT is important, so we can understand His ways and not make errors in assumptions or be led astray when newspapers and television announce the fulfillment of prophecy in 1948.

No, 1948 is God's prophetic time clock. God said He would bring the Jews back from where He scattered them into their own land never to be uprooted again. Plain as the nose on your face.

So then that means they are held to a higher standard, right? especially if they don't accept the New Covenant in Messiah? Consider this: if they don't accept the new covenant, then - per Paul's message to the Jews in Galatia - they are under the first covenant and are required to obey ALL the law, including animal sacrifice for the remission of sin. And because there is no temple or tabernacle, their sins are on their heads, which means every last one of them should die right now. Sons of perdition.

They don't get the benefits of grace for their sins without faith in the Messiah.

But they will. God says so in Romans 11.

What some of the members here are doing is far worse than making grace a license to sin; they're making a claimed identity that very license, which flies in the face of all of scripture, including Paul's letter to the Romans.

No, we're taking God at His Word. You should try it.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I've lived around Jewish people a good portion of my life. I attended a messianic congregation when I lived out west.

And you're saying you never saw antisemitism? Either you're lying or the word antisemitism means nothing to you.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

And you're saying you never saw antisemitism? Either you're lying or the word antisemitism means nothing to you.

I never saw it. Jews were my friends. My girlfriend was Jewish.

 

[Gideon300]

It is a fair and simple question.

Why are you avoiding it?

Why are Samaritans not considered Jewish???

Your avoidance is telling.

That was not the question.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

You're both right and wrong here. The covenant made with Abraham was unconditional and everlasting. Other covenants were conditional. That's why they lost use of the land. But they never lost the deed because God made that covenant with Israel.

This is such a myth repeated nauseum by bible illiterates. God never gave anyone a deed to the land except Jesus Christ, as it is written:

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. John 3:35​

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The land shall not be sold forever: for the land [is] mine; for ye [are] foreigners and sojourners with me. Leviticus 25:23​

Sojourners don't own the land they live on

 

[Gideon300]

Correct me if I'm wrong but back in the day and to this day there are multiple sect of jews.
There traditions different from temple jews.
I believe the text reveals that there worship was different than those of the temple jews and therefore they were looked down upon.

Jesus was considered a Galileo jew which certain traditions were frowned upon by the temple jews. ...hence the saying...could anything good come out of Nazareth?

Just guessing at your post.

Check out the history of the Samaritans. They were not Jews and neither Jesus nor the Samaritan woman implied that they were.

 

[Gideon300]

This is such a myth repeated nauseum by bible illiterates. God never gave anyone a deed to the land except Jesus Christ, as it is written:

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. John 3:35​

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The land shall not be sold forever: for the land [is] mine; for ye [are] foreigners and sojourners with me. Leviticus 25:23​

Sojourners don't own the land they live on

The Lord owns everything. 1 Corinthians 10:26. I suppose you won't buy a house, buy any gold or anything mineral. We don't want you disobeying God, do we.

 

[Haidabo]

"I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the LORD your God (Amos 9:15).

God Bless

God is going to
Destroy this Earth
With fire and brimstone.

So it's evident
The only way this could happen
Is on the new Earth.

 

[Haidabo]

All the saved Nations
will have their place on
the new earth. Not just israel.

 

[Haidabo]

I know it's hard
For all you TV Christians
Who have watched them tell you
For about the last 30 years
How special
Israel and the Jewish people
are to God
And that if you don't bow
down and bless them
And protect them
You are enemies of God.

This is just utter nonsense
Look at America today
Now America
Has been bowing down
And blessing
And protecting
And financing
Israel
Ever since
world war II

Does it look like to you
The United States
Is blessed by God?

You got to be out of your mind
To believe
The United States today
Is blessed by God.

 

[Haidabo]

There is only
A very very very very
Small fraction of people
In the United States
That even tries
To obey God.
But this is the same case
In every country on Earth

So now you know
Why you see
The wrath of God
Stronger and stronger
Everyday
upon the face of the Earth.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I never saw it. Jews were my friends. My girlfriend was Jewish.

Ok, then we need to let Jewish people know where that area is. Because all over the country antisemitism is up, by a lot.

 

[Haidabo]

Ok, then we need to let Jewish people know where that area is. Because all over the country antisemitism is up, by a lot.

Hello
How are you doing today?
I just wanted to tell you
Anti-everything
Is up by a lot
Everywhere.

The Jews don't have a
Monopoly on this
In our country
Or on the Earth.

 

[Haidabo]

Wouldn't it be nice
If everything was
Anti propaganda?
They're even using
AI
To saturate us
With propaganda.
What's next
Brain chips
In our brains?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

This is such a myth repeated nauseum by bible illiterates.

God made Abraham a LAND promise. He set the borders. An unconditional covenant, everlasting promise to the Jews. You don't replace the Jews. That is a dead heresy that keeps raising its ugly head every 10 decades or so. Everlasting means what it says. If God won't keep his promise to the Jew He won't keep it to you!!!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Anti-everything
.

Yeah, well I go by facts. It's bad enough even the liberals are reporting on it. If you can't attend college because protesters are blocking your way and calling for your death, that's antisemitism.

 

[Haidabo]

Yeah, well I go by facts. It's bad enough even the liberals are reporting on it. If you can't attend college because protesters are blocking your way and calling for your death, that's antisemitism.

They got a far
worse problem
than that
It's God
That's what you get
When you reject the Christ
And didobey the doctrine of Christ
You get
The wrath of God
upon you.

 

[Leastofall]

What i find ironic is that those that are anti Israel and anti modern day jews profess to believe in the Jewish messiah and his word and are waiting his arrival.
Now not for nothing but if the jews are liars and misguiding the rest of us....well you can see where I'm going here.🤣😂🤣🤔🤔