Israel.

[PennEd]

Really?
I'm glad you brought this subject up.

Let's examine the facts
And see if what you say is the truth?

is it not a fact
That for God to be your Father
You have to be born of his seed.

And for the devil to be your father
You have to be born of his seed.

Do you agree with this so far?
Yes or no

No. All humans post Adam’s fall are lost, and suffer the same fate as Satan, unless they believe are born again and repent of their dead works to earn Salvation.

Jesus told the Pharisees they were of their father the devil because they rejected Him and stayed in their fallen state. Had they believed in Him, they would have been born again children of God.

 

[Haidabo]

I was tempted to mock these sinners
but I overcame the temptation.

No. All humans post Adam’s fall are lost, and suffer the same fate as Satan, unless they believe are born again and repent of their dead works to earn Salvation.

Jesus told the Pharisees they were of their father the devil because they rejected Him and stayed in their fallen state. Had they believed in Him, they would have been born again children of God.

Did you get you
one of those prayer shawls?

 

[Daisy2]

No. All humans post Adam’s fall are lost, and suffer the same fate as Satan, unless they believe are born again and repent of their dead works to earn Salvation.

Jesus told the Pharisees they were of their father the devil because they rejected Him and stayed in their fallen state. Had they believed in Him, they would have been born again children of God.

Jesus came to preach to the jews first even desiples preach to the jews first. (The first christian were the israelites) The verses he used were for those with the pharisees spirit.

 

[Haidabo]

Seriously
I know
A lot of you
Bought one of those prayer shawls.

And I was wondering
Did it
Help you get
Your prayers
Heard by God?

Did it
Allow you to cut in line
And get your prayers
Answered first?

Please
Tell us
What advantages
Did the prayer shawl
Give your prayers
To God?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Will this really work for you?

Looks like a cahnman authorized by the 1st seal to gather together the tares

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Revelation 6:1-2​

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[Haidabo]

What is that V in his right hand gesture?
Is he using sign language to contact God?

 

[Daisy2]

Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue” Numbers 15:38

 

[Haidabo]

I will tell you what will magnify
your prayers before the Lord.
So as you can avoid all this silliness
and dishonor yourself.

To magnify your prayers before the Lord.
Pray in the beauty of Holiness.
This will work for you every time.

 

[Kroogz]

Pray in the beauty of Holiness.
This will work for you every time.

Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.

We, as believers can quench or grieve the Spirit......1 John 1:9 if we have.


Then we can pray as we are FILLED and WALKING in the Spirit.....Leave your sentimental, emotional nonsense at the door.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

But scripture also says IF....IF they are obedient. And like Paul says, "IF they repent from unbelief".

If they repent, the Almighty is faithful to forgive.

Conditional clause. So the question is, do the people currently in the land meet those conditions (obedient to the commands of Yah and faithful to Messiah)? If the answer is yes then they are Israel. If the answer is no, then they aren't Israel.

One doesn't get the reward without doing the work. If they claim the land without doing what the Almighty requires of them then it is theft.

Amen from the start it was literally written in tbier covenant law the blessings and the curses regarding the promised land

If they obeyed him completely then tbey would be blessed and be a kingdom into him and rule the kingdoms of earth and he would dwell among them and be thier god he would devastate thoer enemies and bring nothing but prosperity and glory to them

Bit if they necame hard against him and began to not obey and to be drawn away to worship other gods and defile his covenant then tbey would be cursed and be destroyed from off the land they went in to possess and it would be left desolate and they would be scattered into all nations as wanderers and curses would pursue them throughout thier generetions ect

No one seems to take time to read the covenant condotions before they explain its an unconditional promise to them

some of the longest chapters in the Bible is full of firsts if they broke the law so much of what’s happened to them correlates dorectly to the covenant they made at sinia and afterwards those curses for breaking the covenant have definately come to pass

 

[Haidabo]

Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.

We, as believers can quench or grieve the Spirit......1 John 1:9 if we have.


Then we can pray as we are FILLED and WALKING in the Spirit.....Leave your sentimental, emotional nonsense at the door.

Did you get you one of those prayer shawls?

 

[Kroogz]

Did you get you one of those prayer shawls?

You won't give yours up.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The "if" is for Gentiles also. So much for OSAS. But that's a horse of another color. Clearly they will repent, the Bible says so.

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children:

but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:6-8‬ ‭

In the ot people were being identified by thier flesh injeritance Abraham’s descendants were chosen because they were Abraham’s descendants only that’s the only reason but in the New Testament the flesh identity isn’t how god identifies us , it is those who accept Jesus they are the children of Abraham being born of israelite flesh doesn’t mean anything now it doesn’t make them special only the spirit of Christ makes us Gods children and people and hiers what country were born in had no effect but what we believe means everything

 

[Haidabo]

You won't give yours up.

Did you get you one of those horns to go with it?
I can just see you all decked out
with your prayer shawl and got your horn
so as you can pray in the right attire.
Got your little pamphlet you got from one of the TV Rabbis
with the Jewish prayers so as you
can recite them to God.

 

[Kroogz]

Did you get you one of those horns to go with it?

I tried, you got the last one.

 

[Haidabo]

I tried, you got the last one.

If I had done any of it
I would admit it.

I love the truth.
If you will live the truth
it will make you free.

 

[Kroogz]

If I had done any of it
I would admit it.

So you don't have the shawl and horn? Usually, when silly questions like that are brought up, the accuser is the very one doing the things they accuse others of.

 

[Haidabo]

So you don't have the shawl and horn? Usually, when silly questions like that are brought up, the accuser is the very one doing the things they accuse others of.

No No No

I am not accusing you.

I am rebuking you.

 

[Haidabo]

You go to correcting and rebuking these
Christians and they scream

Accuser of the brethren

Accuser of the brethren.

I just laugh
God sent me.

 

[Kroogz]

No No No

I am not accusing you.

I am rebuking you.

Because you have the shawl and the horn? They give you the power?