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ThereRoseaLamb

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Really?
To begin with I believe
a lot that is written in the book the bible.
And you talk to people and discuss things
even about God with people who don't believe in the bible.
Do you believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God? If not, there's nothing to discuss.

I mean
come on
you try your best to convince a Jew
to believe in Jesus
when they hate him.
I've been in evangelistic ministry. I don't try to convince any unbeliever of anything. I plant the seed. The rest is up to God.


And you never give up
even when they insult and disrespect you.
And worst yet they think of you
as a pig.

I am being nice to you.
What if I told you I'm Jewish? The Bible says we will be mocked and suffer persecution in this world. It also says to love our enemies. Is God unable to save the Jews?
 
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Joel mentions a former and latter rain or outpouring. So Peter is confused on his usage of Last Days [unless he meant the beginning of the Last Days which we're in now] (his time being the beginning of the Last Days and our time the Ending of the Last Days).
So this is really the crux of the matter. You think Peter was confused and so don't believe what he wrote. What arrogance. Of course you are going to wander off into error if you don't believe what is written. And that's what dispensationalism is - a doctrine of eschatological unbelief.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Where are the sons of David sitting on his throne?
Where is the throne of David?
There is no King
a son of David sitting upon
the throne of David in the state of Israel.

Why?

Read to me from your bible the promises
that God made to David concerning his throne?
No, you said a few posts back you don't believe the Bible. Can't discuss the Bible with someone who doesn't believe.
 

Haidabo

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Take note
Peter denied Jesus 3 times
And Jesus addressed him as Satan.
Paul was a murder who killed
the disciples of Jesus.

Makes you wonder does it not?
 

Haidabo

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No, you said a few posts back you don't believe the Bible. Can't discuss the Bible with someone who doesn't believe.
The next time you discuss
any part of the new testament with a Jew
who does not believe it
remember you will be making yourself a hypocrite
and liar before the Lord.
 

Haidabo

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What if I told you I'm Jewish? The Bible says we will be mocked and suffer persecution in this world. It also says to love our enemies. Is God unable to save the Jews?
What if I told you I am a son of the living God most high.
And I am neither Jew or Gentile and I suffer shame for the name of Jesus Christ?
And that salvation is of the Lord.
Many are called but very few are chosen.
 

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Really?

So let us take you for example.
You have the bible.
But yet
many many many times
over the course of your life
and still now

You make wrong decisions.
But yet you still have your bible.

Is it because you disobeyed your bible?
Tell us all why you still
make wrong decisions in your life?
You ask why, even with the Bible in hand, I still make wrong decisions. The answer is The Bible does not make perfect; it is a guide, a light for our path. But I remain a fallible human being, prone to error and self-will. Knowing what is right and doing what is right are two different things. No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good. The struggle is not the Bible’s failure, but a reflection of my own condition.

As for why it is so important to have the Bible and read and listen to it, I would say this: The Bible is not merely a book of rules or advice, but the record of God’s dealings with humanity. the story that makes sense of all other stories. As Christian it is the light by which we see everything else. The Scriptures do not close the mind; they open it to the presence and wonder of God and offer enduring wisdom for life’s questions. It bring us to Christ Himself. The Bible shapes our understanding, forms our character, and equips us for every good work. I return to it daily, not because I am flawless, but because I am in need of guidance, forgiveness, and the hope it continually offers.
 

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So this is really the crux of the matter. You think Peter was confused and so don't believe what he wrote. What arrogance. Of course you are going to wander off into error if you don't believe what is written. And that's what dispensationalism is - a doctrine of eschatological unbelief.
I believe him but I know the 2 fold prophecy given by Joel and we only see a portion of it fulfilled and there's several key parts that haven't come to pass yet.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The next time you discuss
any part of the new testament with a Jew
who does not believe it
remember you will be making yourself a hypocrite
and liar before the Lord.
Jews have been blinded for a time. You have no such excuse. Why are you here discussing a Bible when you don't believe it?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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lrs68

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You think so, but can't trace back that genealogy. So it is really just a matter of faith.
Shared DNA Markers are able to trace the bloodline back to Abraham, which we know is the great great great Grandson of Noah. Then from Noah we know that goes back to Seth and ultimately to Adam.





Shared Genetic Markers:

Studies have identified a set of genetic markers shared among Jewish populations, suggesting a common ancestry rooted in the Middle East.



Distinct Genetic Signatures:

While sharing common genetic markers, each Jewish population (e.g., Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Ethiopian) also exhibits distinct genetic features reflecting their unique histories and migrations.



Biblical Accounts:

The Bible, particularly Genesis 10 and 11, provides genealogies tracing the lineage of Abraham and other biblical figures back to Noah.



DNA and Biblical Data:

Some studies have attempted to align the biblical accounts of genealogy with DNA evidence, finding several similarities.