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ThereRoseaLamb

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All of the Jews in Jerusalem were slaughtered or sent to mines in Egypt as slaves. So no, i don't think genealogy was important to them. Many that escaped prior or from other areas assimilated with the nations they fled to, so no I don"t think genealogy was important to them

It's quite an interesting conundrum that the Jews are "Jewy" enough to all be guilty of killing Christ in perpetuity, never to be forgiven. They're "Jewy" enough for pogroms and blood liables. And they are "Jewy" enough to be slaughtered by Hitler and his minions. But they aren't "Jewy" enough to inherit their homeland and have a safe place to live in freedom. Funny how that goes.
 

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A future and a hope -Jeremiah31 (I Am the God of the Jews, even if they're blinded for a time in order to incorporate Gentiles into their Promise)
 

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I'm a grafted in Gentile when we are speaking of Romans 11 and if the time of the Gentiles had ended. Jews are still blinded at this point. So the time of the Gentiles has not ended.
You mean they were blinded for a short period in the first century while God was executing His plan, just like how He executed His plan and sent the Messiah to walk the Earth and fulfill every single promise and covenant.
 

Aaron56

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It's quite an interesting conundrum that the Jews are "Jewy" enough to all be guilty of killing Christ in perpetuity, never to be forgiven. They're "Jewy" enough for pogroms and blood liables. And they are "Jewy" enough to be slaughtered by Hitler and his minions. But they aren't "Jewy" enough to inherit their homeland and have a safe place to live in freedom. Funny how that goes.
You missed one: "Jewy enough" to tell them they are still God's people without Christ. All of these are examples of "wisdom from below".
 

lrs68

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Israel is a Nation.
Jerusalem is a city.

A city is NOT a Nation but a city along with hundreds of more cities that make up a Nation.

So to say because people living in a CITY were slaughtered and removed is equivalent to ALL PEOPLE of a nation when there's still 50 to 100 more cities of that particular nation full of the same ethnic people is one of the most ignorant mathematical examples I have ever read in my lifetime.

That's worse than claiming 1+1=3 or any other number.

That's now 4 of the silliest excuses given in this topic discussion for proof of this false Replacement doctrine.

Unreal and unbelievable..
 

Aaron56

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That's now 4 of the silliest excuses given in this topic discussion for proof of this false Replacement doctrine.
I don't know what you're talking about.

Any way, can you show me where 'replacement' occurs below:

One in Christ.jpg
 

Pilgrimshope

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If DNA can connect to Aaron, tribe of Levi [son of Jacob], then it's connecting to Isaac and Abraham and Noah and Enoch 😁
what would it matter ?

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:50‬ ‭

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh;

and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:3, 5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:

but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:6, 8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:26-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The promise is made to everyone who accepts Christ and the gospel our flesh origins don’t matter anymore dna could tell us anything and it wouldn’t impact anyone for the better or worse being israelite or gentile ( non israelite )

“Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:29-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39
 

Pilgrimshope

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The covenant of salvation is ONE, same in the OT and the NT.

So simple is accurate.

“Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭12:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭49:6‬ ‭
 

HeIsHere

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“Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭12:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭49:6‬ ‭

AMEN!!
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You missed one: "Jewy enough" to tell them they are still God's people without Christ. All of these are examples of "wisdom from below".

I've been here a long time and I have taken part in many discussions on Israel and the Jews. You will never see a time when I said they didn't need Christ or that there is any other way of salvation for the Jews. I'll say that loudly enough that HisH can hear it!
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You mean they were blinded for a short period in the first century while God was executing His plan, just like how He executed His plan and sent the Messiah to walk the Earth and fulfill every single promise and covenant.
No, I mean they are blinded until God restores them to the land He promised after He takes away their sins. As per Romans 11.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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That would be partially blinded.
Blind and deaf actually...


What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, 8 as it is written:

“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”
 
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Blind and deaf actually...


What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, 8 as it is written:

“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”
If you take those who do believe and those who don't believe together, the whole is partially blinded (and partially sees). See?