Recent content by wattie

Yes, putting on the 'Christ consciousness ' They are not talking about Jesus, but some kind of pseudo god-like higher emotional state.

Titus 3:4-6 KJV - But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through...

Yeah, freed from chains through the power of the Holy Spirit cleansing us from all sin. Not a higher purchase agreement or list of rules. A sinner ×can't× keep a list of rules to be eternally saved. They will either boast about trying to keep them all...which would be sinning anyway..or...

Well, I think you'd need to do some rewinding with people to establish salvation itself before going on to how they were baptized. A heretics would usually associate baptism with salvation.

I was baptised first in a highly charismatic church in my youth. I didn't really know much about what it really meant at the time. I was introduced to a far more biblically orientated church several years later through a university friend. They practiced re-baptism and I was re-baptised...

Titus 2:11-13 KJV - For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great...

So what do you say to Jesus? I'm going to heaven because of what I have done well.. or because of Jesus' sacrifice for you, when you believed on Him?

I agree with you on this. The question is.. how much fruit is required to 'prove' you are converted?

So where do you seperate daily service from eternal salvation? They are not the same thing and one is not dependent on the other.

The confusion you have is calling every believer an assembly! They will be assembled as one.. eventually..but are not assembled yet. The Predestination is of the place for those who believe..not salvation itself. Heaven preset for all who believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Also.. faithful...

Okay.. well.. we have all thru the book of John..believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. There's your freewill to be saved. Then in the same book..plus numerous other verses we have that salvation being permanent and eternal. That's not pure Calvinism or Arminianism

Neither calvinist nor Armenian = salvation is by free will..but it can't be undone.

Jesus was baptised by immersion in water by John the Baptist. Jesus was doing this as an example, a fulfillment of prophecy. Not a salvation think I think at first thought for the disciples. A figure of already having conversion. If it is actually about salvation itself.. then it may be...

Very well said!

No one is saying don't commit.. but that it is a separate thing to receiving eternal life/conversion.