Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

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Sure, they remain unforgiven and will suffer the 2nd death. I'm not sure I understand the point you are making.
Unbelief is not blasphemy. You have said it a number of times. If blasphemy
is the only unforgivable sin, why are those who do not believe not forgiven?
 

Cameron143

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Unbelief is not blasphemy. You have said it a number of times. If blasphemy
is the only unforgivable sin, why are those who do not believe not forgiven?
I see. Because their sins are laid to their account. Jesus came to save His people from their sins...Matthew 1:21. I believe their names are those that are written in the Lamb's Book of Life before time began. These are also those who are spoken of as chosen in Ephesians 1 and foreknown in Romans 8. At some point in time and space God comes to such a one and reveals Himself, births faith in them, and makes them His own.
While I recognize there are many who do not believe this is consistent with the character of God, I find it wholly consistent with what the Bible teaches of God.
 

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Simply: Any outward act is a work, and WB replaced circumcision as the rite following/portraying preceding inward faith/SB,
which is the condition for forgiveness of sins made justly possible because of Christ's atonement. (Other outward signs of WB
include the list in Gal. 5:22-23, with love being primary per Jesus in John 13:35.)
So your saying, correct me if I'm wrong.

Being baptized is a outward act that is a work, and it replaces circumcision and comes after haing faith with fills you with the Holy Ghost. IS THAT RIGHT?

AND with that, that is how our sins are forgiven because of Christ atonement.

And then you share these three verses.

Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

NO IDEA the porpuse of those scripturs but they are good and ALL of them are.

If that is correct back up what you say with HIS WORD.

1. Show me where being baptized is a work.
2. Show me where it replaces circumcision.
3. Show me where faith give us the Holy Ghost.

If you can't then that is NOT OF GOD and just your opinion.
 

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Simply: Any outward act is a work, and WB replaced circumcision as the rite following/portraying preceding inward faith/SB,
which is the condition for forgiveness of sins made justly possible because of Christ's atonement. (Other outward signs of WB
include the list in Gal. 5:22-23, with love being primary per Jesus in John 13:35.)
FYI, I like to ask questions to challenge people to look for them selves and just not believe what others say. GOD BLESS YOU.
 
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in the age to come mentioned by the Lord Jesus Christ (which includes the time we're living in now) ... is it possible to blaspheme the Holy Spirit? ... or was that something that could only occur when Jesus was physically present on the earth? ... thanks ...

I believe it is no longer possible, but I'm not dogmatic about it. But even if if it is still possible, it's not unbelief that is the blasphemy.

I was thinking along the lines of false teachers who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not (2 Peter 2:1-3).

Ephesians 4:14 mentions some who by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.


There are many verses in Scripture warning against these folks who make merchandise of God's people.

Would the activity of these folks qualify as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

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I was thinking along the lines of false teachers who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not (2 Peter 2:1-3).

Ephesians 4:14 mentions some who by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

There are many verses in Scripture warning against these folks who make merchandise of God's people.

Would the activity of these folks qualify as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
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Not according to the passage, in my opinion.
 
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I went back and read prior posts in our discussion concerning the "unforgivable sin":


Unbelief cannot be the unforgivable sin. Everyone who gets saved was once in the state of unbelief, and has been forgiven of it.
If a person believes the gospel in his or her lifetime, then that person is no longer in "unbelief".

However, when the gospel is presented and a person continually suppresses the truth in unrighteousness so that he or she remains in unbelief at the time he or she dies ... that is what I consider to be the "unforgivable sin".

Apologies if I did not make that distinction earlier in the discussion.




Cameron143 said:
Further, if unbelief is a sin, and Jesus paid for the sins of every person, it has been paid for and God is unrighteous if He accepts payment for a sin and later employs it as the basis for someone's punishment.
I do believe the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ is sufficient to cover all the sins of all mankind from Adam and Eve to present and into future generations.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

It all comes down to whosoever believeth in Him ...



Isaiah 55:6-7 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

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