Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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The apostate church sells their body for money, just like a harlot.

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

We need a balanced view, do we condemn sin? Yes. Will sin damage your inheritance? Yes. On the other hand were some of you guilty of these sins? Yes. Can the sinner be washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God? Yes. Wouldn't you rather have a person in heaven who will welcome you into heaven and testify on your behalf that you helped them to come to the Lord rather than a person in hell who would love nothing more than that you would join them in hell?

12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

When you go down this road to sue someone you are brought under the power of that. The reason people don't sue others over slander is because once you do it allows the "slanderer" to subpoena your emails and private communications. Before a doctor performs an operation they have to scrub down to make sure they are clean. Likewise, if you are going to sue someone you had better scrub down and make sure you are clean. Few people are. It is better to simply forgive and extend mercy because God is merciful to those who are merciful.

13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

People try to downplay the damage of fornication pretending it is just another human function like eating. All the things God gave us to eat are designed to be digested by our belly and our belly is designed to digest all these things. In the same way they try to say that the male sexual organ is designed for the female organ and so this is the same. But it isn't, when you got saved your body is for the Lord. According to Genesis when you are joined to a woman in sex you are one with them. Our body is not to be one with a fornicator but one with the Lord. These same ones claiming that fornication is not a big deal, they will be crying when they get sick. Why did the Lord allow this. But it is a two way street, if you want the Lord to be for your body then your body needs to be for the Lord.

14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

The Christian life is a life that walks by faith in the resurrection of Jesus. That is true concerning the rapture, and that is true concerning sickness.

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

Now this chapter certainly applies to sexual promiscuity, but it also applies to the previous chapter. When you refuse to prosecute the elites for some crime it is very often because they have given you something in return. The way people in the world advance their career is to learn secrets about their bosses, crimes they have committed, and to keep those secrets. In return the corrupt boss feels they can trust them and promotes them. This is one of the reasons people will argue that we should just forgive and forget about all those people on Epstein's flight logs and on all the video tape that was made on that island. But if you do that you have joined yourself to a harlot whether or not you committed sex on that island.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

If you are one body then when they get judged you will get judged. We consider aiding and abetting a crime to also be a crime. We consider covering up a crime to be obstruction of justice and that is also a crime.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

That is right, one spirit with the greater David in slaying giants.

18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

AIDS and venereal disease are two examples.

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Your body is the temple of God, what about the Body of Christ? The apostate church commits fornication, they have joined themselves to FreeMasons (Satanists) because the FreeMasons give them lots of money for their building, and for their audio visual ministry, and to help pay salaries of the staff. That is what a harlot does, she sells her body for money.

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
 

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Woe to thee that spoilest

Isaiah 33:1 Woe to thee that spoilest, and thou wast not spoiled; and dealest treacherously, and they dealt not treacherously with thee! when thou shalt cease to spoil, thou shalt be spoiled; and when thou shalt make an end to deal treacherously, they shall deal treacherously with thee.

This is where we are today. In 2008 the mortgage meltdown revealed that the banks had been dealing treacherously for at least a decade. The Sub prime mortgage backed securities were created in the 1980s, but the NINJA (No Income No Job loans) took off around 2000. Think of what the bank did as a "YoYo loan". They let you pay for your house for five years, perhaps paying them over 120k and then they yank the house back to the bank by doubling your monthly payment. They spend 20k to paint the walls, put in new carpet and then they sell the house again, pocketing the 100k and the appreciation of the houses sale price. The people had not been dealing treacherously with the banks, the banks simply saw a way to scam people and took it. You might think they made an end to dealing treacherously when all this came to light and they were prosecuted. But you would be wrong, no one was prosecuted, they got bonuses. That was simply a glimpse at the man behind the curtain. Since then they have made all the US bank deposits into "share holders of the corporation" meaning if the bank goes under they can seize all those deposits to pay their debts! And, they know they will go under because the entire banking system is based on US bonds. Since the US is going to go bankrupt it will be the chumps with bank accounts who will be left holding the bill.
 

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It is time for the Lord to be exalted

Isaiah 33:2 O Lord, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their arm every morning, our salvation also in the time of trouble.

The day is coming when the banks will close their doors and everyone with money in those banks will discover it is all gone. Jesus told us that our treasure should be in heaven where thieves cannot break in and steal. The thieves have all broken into the banks and robbed you. All of your money has been replaced with US bonds which will be worthless when the US declares bankruptcy.

3 At the noise of the tumult the people fled; at the lifting up of thyself the nations were scattered.

Imagine the panic when the people realize what has happened.

4 And your spoil shall be gathered like the gathering of the caterpiller: as the running to and fro of locusts shall he run upon them.

When a big bank declares bankruptcy the lawyers descend like a pack of caterpillers or like locusts on the assets to devour them.

5 The Lord is exalted; for he dwelleth on high: he hath filled Zion with judgment and righteousness.

Yes, the Lord is exalted because He told you that the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night. You should have listened.

6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

If you think your bank balance is your treasure then you are a fool. Certainly you have heard the expression "you can't take it with you". Well it also will not help you in the day of trouble. Surely you have seen people with wheelbarrows full of cash after the collapse of a currency. Surely you were aware that the US debt increased year after year, you knew they were going bankrupt.

7 Behold, their valiant ones shall cry without: the ambassadors of peace shall weep bitterly.

Valiant? Who knows, but definitely fools.

8 The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant, he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.

The first sign of trouble will be the local and federal governments not taking care of infrastructure. Bridges will collapse, roads filled with potholes, etc.

9 The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.

When the day of reckoning comes it will be shameful because they had plenty of money to do the right thing but the government was full of thieves, scammers, embezzlers, and corruption.

10 Now will I rise, saith the Lord; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.

In 2008 the Lord pulled the curtain away so we could see how corrupt these bankers and government officials are. But now in 2025 with DOGE it is time for the Lord to be exalted. Think of the economy as a giant Jenga tower and Trump is pulling out the blocks as fast as he can. The problem is that as he cuts money from the budget he also cuts tax revenue. Yes our overall budget will be less, but our unemployment will be much higher and our tax revenue will be much smaller.

11 Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you.

The solution that Trump has is to "conceive chaff". Turn all those workers receiving government funding into the unemployed. Once you cut them down they are no longer tax payers and so your field doesn't have fruit, it only has stubble. Trump loves to say "You're fired", but he will set so many on fire that the fire will engulf him as well.

12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.

When you throw thorns into a fire it makes a lot of noise, a lot of crackling. The people will make a lot of noise, a lot of complaint, but they will be like lime. Like a rock burned to ash. They will discover that no one needs them.
 

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Acknowledge the Lord's might

Isaiah 33:13 Hear, ye that are far off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might.

When the US falls the entire world will hear about it. Many people both far and near will be impacted, they should at that time acknowledge the Lord's might and that He warned you of this.

14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Why is it that the Epstein files no longer exist and the people are not going to be prosecuted? It is because they are rich and powerful. Now if those riches turn to dust they will no longer be rich or powerful and so they will be terrified because they stirred up the crowds with pitchforks and torches and now that mob is going to realize what they have done.

15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil; 16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.

Yep, those that take a stand for righteousness, who stand with the Lord despite the giants, despite the odds.

17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty: they shall behold the land that is very far off.

This is the rapture. Those that walketh righteously, those that speaketh uprightly. If you don't despise the gain of oppression don't think you will be raptured. If you take bribes, if you stop your ears from hearing about blood guiltiness, if you are the three monkeys "see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil" don't think you will be raptured.

18 Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? where is the receiver? where is he that counted the towers?

The other side of the rapture are those who were supposed to walk righteously but didn't, those who supposed to speak uprightly but didn't. For them it will be terror as the violent mob realizes they were the ones that deceived them.

19 Thou shalt not see a fierce people, a people of a deeper speech than thou canst perceive; of a stammering tongue, that thou canst not understand.

Those who are left behind will see them, but not those who are raptured.

20 Look upon Zion, the city of our solemnities: thine eyes shall see Jerusalem a quiet habitation, a tabernacle that shall not be taken down; not one of the stakes thereof shall ever be removed, neither shall any of the cords thereof be broken.

Jesus is building His church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

21 But there the glorious Lord will be unto us a place of broad rivers and streams; wherein shall go no galley with oars, neither shall gallant ship pass thereby. 22 For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king; he will save us.

If you reject the Lord as your judge, as your lawgiver, as your Lord and king then you will get the galley with oars. You will get the fierce people with a tongue you don't understand. You will get terror.

23 Thy tacklings are loosed; they could not well strengthen their mast, they could not spread the sail: then is the prey of a great spoil divided; the lame take the prey. 24 And the inhabitant shall not say, I am sick: the people that dwell therein shall be forgiven their iniquity.

The world's economy will be like this ship, totally destroyed, unable to sail, and unable to defend itself. Simply opened up for spoil. After the rapture you will have gangs going about and robbing homes, you will have the streets filled with the dead and so there will also be lots of empty homes, abandoned cars.
 

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I used to think that the Bible said Israel would rebuild the temple

This is due to a translation that translates the Holy Place as "Temple". Yes, there will be a Holy Place again, that is crystal clear in the prophecies and yes the Jews will begin to have sacrifices and oblations again, that also is crystal clear in Bible prophecy. But there is no prophecy anywhere that the Jews will build a third temple. Instead the only prophecy is of the Tabernacle of David being raised again. That is a "tent" that Israel has had for thousands of years. It could be raised in a weekend.

This is important, people think that "I'll wait till I see Israel rebuilding the temple" to know that the rapture is at hand. There is no such prophecy saying we would get that as a warning.

Let's look at this from a very different angle. We are told that Jesus tabernacled with us, it was God in the flesh traveling around Israel as a Holy tabernacle. Could Israel have built the temple in Jerusalem if they did not first receive the Tabernacle? No, all of the instruments that went into the temple were in the tabernacle. The Jews can not rebuild the temple until they receive Jesus as Messiah.

Second, Jesus is the Messiah, the prophecies do indicate that the Messiah builds the third temple and Jesus said He would build His church. We know that Jesus is not going to build a third temple in Jerusalem, instead we will see the New Jerusalem descend to the earth and there is no temple in that. The entire city is the temple of God and it will be built by Jesus Christ.
 

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it is better to marry than to burn

1 Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

They did not write to Paul about the brother who had his father's wife, nor did they write about the lawsuits between brothers that was taking place. No, they write about being super spiritual where men become monks and women become nuns. This is a doctrine of demons. However, it is not a doctrine yet, just something being floated by the super spiritual who are at the same time ignoring the gross sins and insult to the Lord. This reminds me of the prayer asking the Lord to forgive our sins because we do the things we ought not and we don't do the things we ought.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

So let's look at how evil this doctrine is. First there will be those who will pretend to be celibate and yet can't. As a result they will commit fornication. God ordained marriage so that we would not be put into this position. Then what happens in the Catholic church (they forbid marriage among priests, monks and nuns) is that about 25% of the priests are involved in fornication. Now this is consenting adults, but because of this 3% are emboldened to be pedophiles knowing that if they get disciplined they can take down 25% of the clergy. The harm is much greater, but instead of beating a dead horse I am going to move on.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

In the previous chapter we were told that our body is for the Lord and not for a harlot. Here we learn that when you get married you become one flesh with your wife and that means your body is for her and likewise her body is for you. If the last chapter can be viewed spiritually as referring to the apostate church this chapter can be viewed spiritually as referring to the normal church. In the church there is the need for brothers and sisters to offer up their bodies as a living sacrifice. Every event, every ministry requires a lot of labor from a lot of volunteers. One year I volunteered for a church play. I could not believe how many hours were required. We met every week for two months, so about 30 hours in total, and then our dress rehearsals seemed to take forever. I was on stage for all of 30 seconds and my line was a single sentence. I never volunteered for that again. It seems to me that it was unnecessary for me to spend all that time, during rehearsals someone else could have read the line. It seems to me the person who supervised could have had me show up for a total of ten hours and it would have been more than sufficient. Same with many of the other actors. Sometimes we would come in, spend three hours and our scene was never even rehearsed. I would leave feeling very disrespected and I suspect many others felt the same way. There was no "due benevolence". You expect the person who is over the whole play to take a little time to figure out who they need and who they don't at any given practice. On the other hand we used to have a service meeting every Saturday morning where we would fix things in the church. We would come together, about twenty brothers, pray, and then they would divide us up into groups of two or three brothers. I was able to learn a lot of odd jobs this way, and I got to know the brothers in the church. Not only so they would then invite me to their home for lunch (I was a college student). Now that is what I call "due benevolence". I was taking three hours out of my Saturday morning, giving it to the church and they in return were giving me three hours of quality time with an older brother who could mentor me.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Whoever your ministry leader is whether it is brothers taking care of the meeting hall or a church play, either way you are not to defraud one another. For example, they could have let us know which scenes were going to be rehearsed that night, if we weren't going to be doing a scene you were in you were not required to show up or you could come if you want. The real reason I had volunteered was to get involved with the writing of the script, but they never asked me and had no interest in my input. I'm very glad I had that experience because it was a great contrast between all the ministry leaders I have seen in my life. The basic rule of thumb is that you should be filled with life and peace when you go to the ministry and you should look forward to the meetings.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

Each one of us has a calling. What I do with this blog is easy for me, the burden is light and the Lord's yoke is easy. But for others, to make 10 posts a day, every day without fail regardless? Most people I have known would not want any part of this. Each of us has his proper gift, one after this manner, another after that.

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

The Lord tells me what to do. If I feel lost, rudderless, without direction I will pray to the Lord and almost immediately I will get some guidance. I love it because I don't have to waste any time. But others can not handle this, they want to be in a group and have the ministry leader give them directions. If you forced them to do what I am doing they would go crazy.
 

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Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called

10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

Denominations are simply churches that are divorced from their brothers and sisters. They can separate over the music, or over instruments, or over head coverings, or over immersion, or sprinkling, etc. There are items of the faith that we should stand firm on. Those items are in Ephesians 4. Based on that if you were to separate from Jehovah Witness or a Mormon that would make sense, the issue is over the items of the faith. But most Christians today seem to understand that as a rule we are not to divide ourselves from other genuine believers.

12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. 13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

This can be a very tough situation and I would tell everyone from experience that you should pray to the Lord for your husband or wife, and you should follow the Lord's leading. If you choose a husband or a wife according to your own opinion or according to your flesh you will regret it. God said "it is not good for man to be alone". True, but He didn't say it was bad. Think of a number line, on one side it is good, on. the other it is bad. To be alone is right in the middle, a 0. A bad marriage can be awful, horrible, even torture. It is far better to be single than to be in a bad marriage. Also we should have this attitude that marriage is permanent. Now if you are already in the marriage you need to pray. An unbelieving spouse can bring the occult into your home. They can bring witchcraft and idolatry into your home. The good thing is that Jesus is Lord, He is king of kings, at His name every knee must bow. So your prayers are far more effective than anyone involved in the occult or witchcraft. But even if you don't think that is the issue with an unbelieving spouse familiar spirits are almost certainly an issue. They are like pests and parasites. It is virtually a certainty that an unbeliever has opened themselves up to these and if you are married they have opened your home up to these. This simply means you must be twice as diligent to pray and put a stop to all of these.

15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

Many Christians are not fully balanced on this issue. They condemn every believer who is divorced. But what if their spouse was an unbeliever and chose to leave? Suppose you meet with a church and there is a FreeMason on the board of directors. You shouldn't try to force him out. However, you definitely should not allow them to control the message spoken to the congregation, nor should they be allowed to bring elements of witchcraft or the occult into the church. You need to pray and they will have to make a decision. When they see that Jesus is more powerful than the demons they serve will they repent or will they leave? If they choose to leave let them, even if that means you lose a meeting hall.

16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? 17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

If you are in a very tough marriage whether it is the church or your marriage view this as the Lord as the Commander in Chief assigning this very tough task to you. It could be that the Lord knows this person needs a lot of prayer to be saved.

18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.

Some people were saved out of Christianity, some were saved out of Judaism and some were saved out of being a heathen. Each one, after being saved, is particularly suited to go back to that group to preach the gospel.

19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. 20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.

Each of us has a special calling, when you find out what it is everything will fit, you will be full of life and peace knowing there is a place for you in the kingdom of the heavens. This is why people try to be super spiritual, they think it will help them in their ministry. But like Paul says, it is nothing. What will help is to embrace your calling. If you got saved in prison perhaps prison ministry is your calling. If you got saved off the street perhaps street ministry is your calling. If you got saved out of Judaism maybe messianic Jew is your calling.