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Any idiot knows a got ya question. Like they wouldn't burn up the presses no matter what he answered. I would have said "that's none of your business"! Funny how they never asked that of any other president.
No, I just take God at His Word. When He says everlasting, I believe He means it.
Yeah, no. Don't put words in my mouth. I believe what God promises. You make Him a liar, I trust everlasting means what it says.
Any idiot knows a got ya question. Like they wouldn't burn up the presses no matter what he answered. I would have said "that's none of your business"! Funny how they never asked that of any other president.
No, I just take God at His Word. When He says everlasting, I believe He means it.
Yeah, no. Don't put words in my mouth. I believe what God promises. You make Him a liar, I trust everlasting means what it says.
Read the whole Bible. Cherry picking scriptures to suit yourself is exactly the way to be deceived. The question is not about salvation. It is whether or not Israel has a place in God's purpose right now. It has.
I believe that Israel will soon crush all its enemies and become the great power of the Middle East. It's well on the way now. Study God's word diligently and without preconceived notions and you may see the truth.
I believe that Israel will soon crush all its enemies and become the great power of the Middle East. It's well on the way now. Study God's word diligently and without preconceived notions and you may see the truth.
God gave the land that became Israel to Abraham and his descendants. In your view, the whole history of Israel is meaningless. Guess again. Scripture is being worked out right now, in the Middle East, with Israel at its centre. The reason why the world is hostile to Israel is because the world is hostile to God. The world is hostile to God because it is controlled by the devil.
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I really get all this confusion: you are all of the age where "We must support the land of Israel" was already metastasized in the churches when you were young and impressionable. It was politically expedient after World War 2 and so it was made into doctrine.
Kinda like the rapture doctrine that appeals to a people who were never taught that being in Christ requires maturing through suffering. The people like the rapture because it means they'll escape tough times; times they are not interested in preparing for.
It's understandable. Not excusable but understandable.
The truth is if all in Christ are heirs to the promises given to Abraham then there is only one active covenant. If not, then God is double-minded and propping up the old covenant while being totally invested in the new.
Here's an interesting question: When a Jew becomes a believer in Christ does he or she have to chose between the small piece of land promised to Abraham or the whole world and every cow in the field given to Christ?
If you say "Well, they get the land offered to Abraham" then you admit that their promise in Christ is limited by their natural DNA.
If you say "They get all that is promised in Christ" THEN you see clearly that everything promised in Christ is rightfully co-inherited by all sons of God.
Kinda like the rapture doctrine that appeals to a people who were never taught that being in Christ requires maturing through suffering. The people like the rapture because it means they'll escape tough times; times they are not interested in preparing for.
It's understandable. Not excusable but understandable.
The truth is if all in Christ are heirs to the promises given to Abraham then there is only one active covenant. If not, then God is double-minded and propping up the old covenant while being totally invested in the new.
Here's an interesting question: When a Jew becomes a believer in Christ does he or she have to chose between the small piece of land promised to Abraham or the whole world and every cow in the field given to Christ?
If you say "Well, they get the land offered to Abraham" then you admit that their promise in Christ is limited by their natural DNA.
If you say "They get all that is promised in Christ" THEN you see clearly that everything promised in Christ is rightfully co-inherited by all sons of God.
Brother, I respect your study and your character.
The natural body of Jesus died.
The natural seed of a man cannot be spiritual, that's the point.
The promises were given to Seed, singular, which is Christ. The promises were spiritual, and the flesh cannot inherit spiritual things.
This is all in 1 Corinthians 15.
"All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds."
"So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit."
"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption."
This is elementary.
The natural body of Jesus died.
The natural seed of a man cannot be spiritual, that's the point.
The promises were given to Seed, singular, which is Christ. The promises were spiritual, and the flesh cannot inherit spiritual things.
This is all in 1 Corinthians 15.
"All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds."
"So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit."
"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption."
This is elementary.
I underlined the part I disagree with. It's far from accurate. Until the Seed (Christ) appeared, men only had the old covenant to see God working in His people.
When Christ appeared, any promises of God left unfulfilled were completely vetted in Christ.
This is what Paul meant when he wrote:
Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning ONE PERSON, who is Christ.
If Christ is natural then we have no hope. But He's not. He's spiritual and can now include all who receive Him. All who receive Him, in turn, receive the promises given to Christ.
All includes Jews and Gentiles. No one was replaced. Actually, all were included in Christ.
When Christ appeared, any promises of God left unfulfilled were completely vetted in Christ.
This is what Paul meant when he wrote:
Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning ONE PERSON, who is Christ.
If Christ is natural then we have no hope. But He's not. He's spiritual and can now include all who receive Him. All who receive Him, in turn, receive the promises given to Christ.
All includes Jews and Gentiles. No one was replaced. Actually, all were included in Christ.
