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Aaron56

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Hate to be pedantic, but some were of the tribes of Israel and some were of the tribe of Judah (Jew). It's an important distinction to make because the prophets said God would make a new covenant with the house of israel and the house of Judah, and the fulfillment of that prophecy just prior to the cross gets lost to people susceptible to the dispensational delusion who only think in terms of Jews, and consequently they project the fulfillment of that prophecy into the future
Not pedantic at all. Hebrew would have been more accurate.
 

Gideon300

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God fulfilled ALL His Promises in Christ Jesus not in a piece of real estate.
Believe what you want. Events right now are proving you wrong. Never mind, one day you might get it.

Do you know what a graft is in horticulture? The graft does not destroy the plant. The church is grafted into the "tree" of Israel. Salvation is of the Jews after all.
 

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It seems that the entire middle east is God forsaken.
No, not forsaken by God. The Middle East forsook God centuries ago. Funny how there was peace until Israel was restored as a nation. Islam is the religion of Esau and hostility is in its DNA. You may notice that Israel is by far the greatest military power in the Middle East. That is no accident. The hostility of Muslims to Israel and Jews generally is to be expected. And so is the miserable lifestyle of Muslims around the world. The only way Muslims can prevent Islam from imploding is the threat of death if people leave. Even that is not stopping an exodus of Muslims from their dead religion. Muslims worship a dead man who was a lying, deceiving, mass murdering paedophile. It's hardly surprising if God refuses to bless such people.
 

PennEd

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I am pretty sure Christ Jesus stated that His Kingdom was not of this world.
Yup. He will reign in Heaven AND earth.


Unless God lied in delivering His message through Gabriel to Mary:

Luke 1:32
New King James Version
32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.

King David’s was a political, EARTHLY throne. In case you forgot. Located in Jerusalem in Israel!


Ah. That’s right, the Amils allegorize any Scripture that expressly goes against their highly erroneous doctrine.
 

Aaron56

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Yup. He will reign in Heaven AND earth.


Unless God lied in delivering His message through Gabriel to Mary:

Luke 1:32
New King James Version
32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.

King David’s was a political, EARTHLY throne. In case you forgot. Located in Jerusalem in Israel!


Ah. That’s right, the Amils allegorize any Scripture that expressly goes against their highly erroneous doctrine.
@HeIsHere

Ironic isn't it. They read that the Christ will receive the "throne of His father David" and conclude that it is in modern day Jerusalem.

Yet, David was not Jesus' nor Christ's father in the flesh. So right away we should know that it speaks of something other than a natural lineage or natural birthright. Yet, they maintain their traditions to assuage their emotions over the killing of 10s of thousands of Arabs at the hand of "God's people".

Such frauds with wicked hearts! The kind of people who elect fornicators and adulterers to rule over them.
 
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The middle east has many things biblically going on.
God is doing a mighty work in the hearts and minds of all concerned.
Imo we look for a supernatural intervention that goes beyond our finite minds. Which will be in certain situations but not always.
As God speaks through the prophets he uses the term....I will cause....this is using man's hearts, and ambitions for or against them.
I must say it's hard to explain and I'm working on connecting the dots myself.
God is in the process of fulfilling saving those he can.
I know I'm all over the place with this as I said a work in progress.
Did you know that there are jews living in Iran. Christians also. That Iran and Israel were tight at one time?
God wants peace and does not delight in the death of the wicked. Biblically this is a family squabble with satanic influence.
Satan has never deflected from proving God a liar.
These are just thoughts that go through my head and heart.
 

Haidabo

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Watch for persecution to increase among the world's jews due to a Fatwa being issued
I think they've been run
Out of something like 106 countries
From the time God drove them out of their land for all their evil and disobedient

What do you expect going to happened to them?
Isn't that part of what God said would happen to them for all
their disobedience and sins?

God told them
He was punished in seven times
More than the gentiles
For their evil doings.

God departed from them.
 
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Believe what you want. Events right now are proving you wrong. Never mind, one day you might get it.

Do you know what a graft is in horticulture? The graft does not destroy the plant. The church is grafted into the "tree" of Israel. Salvation is of the Jews after all.

To the Jews first, then to us. Right as rain!
 

PennEd

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Ironic isn't it. They read that the Christ will receive the "throne of His father David" and conclude that it is in modern day Jerusalem.
You can talk directly to me bro. I won’t bite.

What do you mean by “modern day Jerusalem”?

Certainly a tenth of it, and 7000 people won’t be there.

Was King David’s throne on earth and in Jerusalem?
 
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Such frauds with wicked hearts!
Who?


The kind of people who elect fornicators and adulterers to rule over them.
Who? You don't vote then. That's your right. Some of us feel it's our duty to vote. You wish to sit home, fine. Don't deride the rest of us for doing our civic duty.
 

Haidabo

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Nope! You're not first. YOU are grafted in. You don't replace the Jews.
Jesus stated in the
book of Matthew
The first shall be last
an the last shall be first
many are called but few are chosen.

He also stated
That the kingdom of God
Would be taken from them
And given to another Nation.

And I'm not grafted into anything
I am born into the kingdom of God
Just as Jesus stated
The only way anyone can get into it.

By being born into it.
 

Haidabo

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Have any of you
Ever went to a
Messianic Christian service?

You should go
It will be an eye opener for you
The truth shall make you free.