Don't Eat What God Hates. But Why?

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Doesn't matter "what you think", God has cleansed it for us, and we are not to call it unclean. Climb out of that musty closet of old testament law you live in and join the new covenant dispensation.
Are you saying that the scripture telling us of the new covenant in Christ is also telling us that parts of the bible are not scripture? That cannot be. Surely the new covenant you talk of is not asking me to deny scripture. The entire book of Hebrews is dedicated to how Christ built on scripture and is better. Are you saying that book is wrong, too? It even mentions things that are obsolete that were used then, and how Christ made those things better and to use that, now. With how you are saying, then when we have our 2014 model cars, they can't use any of the principles of first cars, yet the fact is that we have our 2014 models because it is an outgrowth of the first inventions, not because it cancelled everything before.
 
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How does verse 19 apply to John the baptist? Don't locust travel in big packs just wondering ?

Mark 1:6 And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;

God Bless
Here's an interesting point and a fun fact that some people may not know. The Mosaic Dietary Laws actually do set apart a type of insect that are "kosher" to eat. Of these it is to be assumed this is what John the Baptist was eating, and can be further supported as the Kosher Locust was seen back then as a poor man's food, thus fitting in with John's background. From what I gather though some of the modern survivng species of the so-called Kosher Locust may have gone extinct and what remains is in somewhat of a dispute as to whether or not it fits the Levitical Kosher guidelines. I'm not saying you should go out eating grasshoppers left and right, but it certainly is an interesting bit of the dietary codes that is often overlooked and in my opinion, just kind of a fun thing to study.

Leviticus 11:21-23
21) Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22) Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23) But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

And here's a wikipedia page on this topic for you to do some further study:

Kosher locust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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I know Angela52510. lol your post was so good, you posted it twice. lol but thanks.
Well, I did get a message saying it was going off the page. I guess it has to be one of the great posts, but required reading only once!

Très weird!
 
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Hey phil112. Were that scripture taken from? and plus, why do we need to ask God to bless our food, if its cleaned already? Thank him yes, but why ask God to bless if its cleansed already?
I Timothy 4:4 "For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer."
 

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How you and I look at what God told us in the OT is different. When I read Hebrews it tells me that Christ built on what was, Christ made it complete. I read Hebrews as if it is talking to someone who thoroughly knew and believed in all God explained about all God is in the OT, and being told how Christ made everything better. It is a big difference between reading it as to wipe out what was and Christ made it completely new.

It is also looking at scripture from a different viewpoint. I am seeing it as a unit, as from One God, with every single verse fitting together with every other verse. If something is scripture in the year 3,000 BC, I see it as scripture in 2,000 AD. So nothing takes precedence, it is all one. It is just a matter of seeing how it fits together.
Do you agree then with the Book of Hebrews that the Levitical priesthood and the levitical system has been replaced by a better and eternal Priesthood?
 
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Are you saying that the scripture telling us of the new covenant in Christ is also telling us that parts of the bible are not scripture? That cannot be. Surely the new covenant you talk of is not asking me to deny scripture. The entire book of Hebrews is dedicated to how Christ built on scripture and is better. Are you saying that book is wrong, too? It even mentions things that are obsolete that were used then, and how Christ made those things better and to use that, now. With how you are saying, then when we have our 2014 model cars, they can't use any of the principles of first cars, yet the fact is that we have our 2014 models because it is an outgrowth of the first inventions, not because it cancelled everything before.
Show me scripture where it says Christ made the old testament "better".
Stop pretending scripture says someting it doesn't. The old one had faults. The new one is better. The old one is passe, that is to say, dated. It was useful for what God wanted it for, but in HIS plan, the new one is different. Not a "new and improved" version of the old. DIFFERENT!
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. [SUP] [/SUP]For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
[SUP] [/SUP]For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
[SUP] [/SUP]Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
[SUP] [/SUP]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
[SUP] [/SUP]And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
[SUP] [/SUP]For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
[SUP] [/SUP]In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
 
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OInk oink, I don't eat pork, sorry if you do, it's ok with me, BUT i like pepperoni on pizza, let's pig out, NOW!!! jk, no way, My favoirte food is water. I pretend I eat it, and it goes down smooth, like silk, down my throat nice n cool, yeah,,,,,
Water isn't a food type.
 
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I think it was to do with cleanliness. Or perhaps the stomach wasn't as firm and acidic as it is nowadays? But I know that pork meat, without vaccinations, would harbor a lot of worm and things. Deer, in comparison, would be relatively 'clean'.

'Clean', as in, literally 'clean'.
 
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Show me scripture where it says Christ made the old testament "better".
Stop pretending scripture says someting it doesn't. The old one had faults. The new one is better. The old one is passe, that is to say, dated. It was useful for what God wanted it for, but in HIS plan, the new one is different. Not a "new and improved" version of the old. DIFFERENT!
I can show you scripture that says that Christ made it better. That is the only better there is in scripture. I am not adding or TAKING AWAY from scripture, you are. God is eternal and not different. Christ is not a new God, Christ was at creation.
 
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Hey phil112. Were that scripture taken from? and plus, why do we need to ask God to bless our food, if its cleaned already? Thank him yes, but why ask God to bless if its cleansed already?
The book of Acts and Peter's vision concerning the Gentiles being grafted in.
 
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I can show you scripture that says that Christ made it better. That is the only better there is in scripture. I am not adding or TAKING AWAY from scripture, you are. God is eternal and not different. Christ is not a new God, Christ was at creation.
But you have not posted a verse that supports your claim the Jesus made the OT better. Jesus fulfilled the law and now we are not under the Mosaic law but we are under grace.
 
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I like fried rabbit, fried potatoes and biscuits and gravy.
 
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The book of Acts and Peter's vision concerning the Gentiles being grafted in.
Peter never had a vision of gentiles being grafted in. It was a vision of unclean animals and God told Peter to kill and eat. After that He saw that the Holy Spirit fell on the Gentiles and He understood that the concept of unclean was no longer valid.
 
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Peter never had a vision of gentiles being grafted in. It was a vision of unclean animals and God told Peter to kill and eat. After that He saw that the Holy Spirit fell on the Gentiles and He understood that the concept of unclean was no longer valid.

Peter's vision led him to Cornelius' household and led him to preach to this GENTILE MAN AND HIS FAMILY and supports what I posted earlier oh grand poo bah
 
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Do you agree then with the Book of Hebrews that the Levitical priesthood and the levitical system has been replaced by a better and eternal Priesthood?
I do, but when you say replaced, from all your old posts you are meaning that it not only replaced the old priesthood, but that the old one has absolutely nothing to do with what the new one is like. I don't go along with the word replaced as you mean that word.

I just replaced my old electrical box, threw the old one out, it is in the garbage. Gone. But the new one is a better box than the old one, and the guy who invented the new one used the same principles the new one had. Old one didn't work any more, if I overloaded a circuit I couldn't throw the switch to make it work again. It is the same with the priesthood.
 
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I like Bacon, clam chowder, lobster, crab cakes, catfish, shrimp and much more.
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danschance

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Here is a nice Kosher dish. Fried locust. Yum.
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Peter's vision led him to Cornelius' household and led him to preach to this GENTILE MAN AND HIS FAMILY and supports what I posted earlier oh grand poo bah
Actually you said Peter had a vision of grafting in the gentiles. His vision had nothing to do with the gentiles. It had to do with the concept of clean and unclean being over. Gentiles were considered unclean and it divided them from the Jews.