Israel.

[Leastofall]

Hmm. This logic is something else.... I really hope you realize that the Messiah isn't the savior on account of being of the tribe of Judah. I mean, if we look at this the way you're proposing, that would logically also mean that every Jew is a sinless savior too. Barabbas was a Jew.

Besides...I'm not saying the Jews are liars and misguiding the rest of us. I'm saying those in control of the land are liars about being Jews and misguiding the rest of us.

I've have not seen your post yet ....

 

[TabinRivCA]

You don't know
What I know
You don't even know
Who I am.
And there's not a soul
Not even his own
That your pastor has saved.

You're right about one thing, what you know I don't know and don't want to. Gotta go, God is Love.

 

[Leastofall]

Have you heard of Pastor Greg Laurie, he's one of my Pastors, and my local church. Who's yours?

Pastor Greg is a great pastor. ...so your of Calvary chaple? Pastor Bill galintin is mine.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

This is the Apple
Of God's eye.
These are God's
Chosen people.

Replacement theology is heresy.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

No, it doesn't matter as long as they're obedient.

Everlasting, unconditional, period.

You're avoiding the issue. When Israel was disobedient & unfaithful, they lost use of the land.

When a portion was faithful and obedient, that portion was allowed to return to the land.

When they rejected the Messiah, they lost use of the land.

........Why are they there now, when they haven't returned to obedience and faithfulness to the Almighty by accepting His Son?

Because God is regathering from where He scattered them. That's why 48 is important. The age of the Gentile is winding down.

When Israel was disobedient & unfaithful, they lost use of the land.

When a portion was faithful and obedient, "God brought them back."

When they rejected the Messiah, they lost use of the land.

........Why are they there yet, when they haven't accepted His Son?

They lost the use but not the deed. Promise remains.

"Will". Ok, then you concede the future clause.

Do they have those benefits now? We're going to keep coming back to this.

Blinded for a time, still God's chosen people.

You sure? You seem to struggle with your favorite passage on the matter. I mean, it's right there in Romans 11. What does "if" mean? We learn what the word means in elementary school.

More than positive. Unconditional, irrevocable, everlasting. Understand any of those words?!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I'm saying those in control of the land are liars about being Jews and misguiding the rest of us.

Lol how are they lying about being Jews?

 

[TabinRivCA]

Pastor Greg is a great pastor. ...so your of Calvary chaple? Pastor Bill galintin is mine.

Yes, Harvest Christian Fellowship grew from Calvary Church. If you haven't seen the movie, Jesus Revolution, it's a great story of how Chuck Smith (Calvary) and Greg Laurie(Harvest) met and the impact they had on one another.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

And other sheep I have
which are not of this fold
them also I must bring and
they shall hear my voice and
there shall be one fold and
one Shepherd. ~ Jesus Christ

This is the Apple
Of God's eye.
These are God's
Chosen people.

I found it interesting when Tucker Carlson oh-so soundly refuted those pushing the replacement heresy (during the recent episode Ted Cruz couldn't even cite the bible passage supposedly supporting his heretical Zionist beliefs he had "been taught in Sunday school"), a whole bunch of dispensationalist pastors started preaching against Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens during their sermons. Candace Owens has now uncovered evidence that Zionist groups were offering financial reward (e.g. bitcoin) for these pastors to make false accusations of antisemitism against her and Tucker in their sermons.

All because the widely pushed heresy of dispensationalism is being publicly refuted and debunked, and the exposure of the fallacy of the claim that God has rejected His chosen people - both Jew and Gentile - in favour of a political group very similar to the Nazis and Communists that came before.

 

[Haidabo]

Replacement theology is heresy.

I love God's
replacement
theology.

And it is
Already in progress.

 

[Haidabo]

You're right about one thing, what you know I don't know and don't want to. Gotta go, God is Love.

You don't know
That you don't know
What you think you know
As the truth
Is mostly
Incorrect

 

[TrustandObey]

What i find ironic is that those that are anti Israel and anti modern day jews profess to believe in the Jewish messiah and his word and are waiting his arrival.
Now not for nothing but if the jews are liars and misguiding the rest of us....well you can see where I'm going here.🤣😂🤣🤔🤔

Modern day Jews are no more Jewish than the woman at Jacob's Well.

 

[Haidabo]

Modern day Jews are no more Jewish than the woman at Jacob's Well.

You are correct
But on the same token
We must also say
Modern day Christians
Or not even close
To being
The Christians
In the Bible.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I love God's
replacement
theology.

And it is
Already in progress.

Nope.

 

[Haidabo]

Nope.

It's easy
To prove I'm right
And you are wrong.
I've been doing it
Many times
Already.

And God is watching
All of it.

 

[Melach]

Lol how are they lying about being Jews?

i'll tell you how. many of them are white people. thats how

you're not gonna be called goldstein and be white as a german and claim to be middle-eastern. even a child should know that in the bible the jews were mistaken for egyptians. moses was, st.paul was. how do egyptians look? spoiler: not white europeans.

here is the verse where they think that st.paul is an egyptian based on how he looks, which would be north-african, middle-eastern:

acts 21:37As they were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?” “Do you speak Greek?” he replied. 38“ Aren’t you the Egyptian who incited a rebellion some time ago and led four thousand members of the ‘Assassins’ into the wilderness?” 39But Paul answered, “I am a Jew from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Now I beg you to allow me to speak to the people.

its just corny seeing christians go to work for these white people with funny hats in israel to work for free on their farms to artificially fulfill some prophecy. what a bunch of weirdos and fetishists.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

It's easy
To prove I'm right
.

Romans 11, YOU don't replace, YOU are grafted in. Can't you read?!

 

[Haidabo]

Romans 11, YOU don't replace, YOU are grafted in. Can't you read?!

I'm sorry
But here again
I can easily prove
This is incorrect theology
Or doctrine as you may.

There's no such thing
As being grafted in
To the kingdom of God.
You can only be
Born into the kingdom of God.
You cannot be adopted
Into the kingdom of God
The only way
Anyone
Gets into the kingdom of God
It's just as Jesus stated
Born of water
And born of the Spirit.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

i'll tell you how. many of them are white people. thats how

you're not gonna be called goldstein and be white as a german and claim to be middle-eastern. even a child should know that in the bible the jews were mistaken for egyptians. moses was, st.paul was. how do egyptians look? spoiler: not white europeans.

here is the verse where they think that st.paul is an egyptian based on how he looks, which would be north-african, middle-eastern:

acts 21:37As they were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?” “Do you speak Greek?” he replied. 38“ Aren’t you the Egyptian who incited a rebellion some time ago and led four thousand members of the ‘Assassins’ into the wilderness?” 39But Paul answered, “I am a Jew from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Now I beg you to allow me to speak to the people.

its just corny seeing christians go to work for these white people with funny hats in israel to work for free on their farms to artificially fulfill some prophecy. what a bunch of weirdos and fetishists.

You do understand there are red headed Jewish people? Color has nothing to do with anything. By my coloring I'm constantly mistaken for Mexican, and every Italian I meet assumes I'm one of them. But I'm neither. Like I keep saying, too bad Hitler wasn't so easily fooled as some of you. We could have saved 6 million innocent peoples lives.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I'm sorry
But here again
I can easily prove
This is incorrect theology
Or doctrine as you may.
.

13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

 

[TrustandObey]

You are correct
But on the same token
We must also say
Modern day Christians
Or not even close
To being
The Christians
In the Bible.

You may be missing my point. There are no people today that can claim the heritage needed to be Jewish in the eyes of Jesus. If He considered the Samaritans as not Jewish because of their background then who today make a legitimate claim of New Testament Jewishness?

In other words, modern day definitions of Jewishness are not based on Biblical principles.