Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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cv5

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  1. Please define "free will"
    1. What's impossible is trying to make sense of the phrase "free will" unless we define it ourselves for our purposes.
Free will = TRUE LIFE
And true life is that which God grants there is no other.

There is your definition.
 

Magenta

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No.

This is the standard super-determinist one hit wonder misapprehended taken out of context verses.
The context being......the entire content of the Bible from cover to cover.
Ah, yes, starting with Adam in Genesis, who rejected God's will in favour of his own.

But you are one of those who prefers to blaspheme God rather than admit what the Bible actually says.


James 1 verses 14-15; 1 John 2 verse 16 Each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is lured away and enticed. Then after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. For all that is in the world- the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life- is not from the Father but from the world. .:)
 
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Facts are facts whether they are contained in scripture or not.
Cracked up laughing, there's no doubt facts are facts, just some facts turn out not to be facts after all. Hence why opinion is often changed about what was previously considered historical fact. :rolleyes:
 

cv5

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Magenta

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Despite what the un-Biblical free will doctrine promoters put forth, the natural man does not have everything he needs in order to grow the good fruit of faith from the stony ground of his incurably wicked heart which is opposed to the things of God, and he cannot change himself, being a lover of darkness who suppresses the truth in unrighteousness as a slave to sin, being inherently hostile in his mind toward God, and blinded to the truth while under the power of the evil one. Those who promote the free will of the natural man reject a plethora of Biblical truths.
 
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Choice is not will, nobody has suggested otherwise! You seek to cause strife, not engage in debate, i'm sure your choice of reading matter is for self aggrandisement rather than enlightenment too.
 

cv5

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Choice is not will, nobody has suggested otherwise! You seek to cause strife, not engage in debate, i'm sure your choice of reading matter is for self aggrandisement rather than enlightenment too.
What debate? Game set match buddy its over.
 
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It's important to say how troubling the behaviour of so many who purport to be Christian, has been on this thread. Many view themselves as morally superior to non-believers, when attempted bullying of me for daring to state a contrary opinion to what amounts to a collective hivemind, has been pretty extraordinary.

Obviously, i'm not the type to be intimidated but do feel concern about the harm which has probably been done to less confident people. Thankfully, there are lots of truly spiritual, lovely people here but there are also many who need to take off their rose coloured glasses.
 

cv5

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It's important to say how troubling the behaviour of so many who purport to be Christian, has been on this thread. Many view themselves as morally superior to non-believers, when attempted bullying of me for daring to state a contrary opinion to what amounts to a collective hivemind, has been pretty extraordinary.

Obviously, i'm not the type to be intimidated but do feel concern about the harm which has probably been done to less confident people. Thankfully, there are lots of truly spiritual, lovely people here but there are also many who need to take off their rose coloured glasses.
Nonsense. All that has been provided is edifying and educational and has been made in good faith.