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Kroogz

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So don’t be so quick to cast others aside.
Notice:

They cast the Jew aside. Everyone else( even Muslim terrorists) is an unbeliever and needs the Gospel and our love.

All the more reason to believe God has future plans for Israel.
 

Haidabo

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YOU were a child of the devil at one time too:
Really?
I'm glad you brought this subject up.

Let's examine the facts
And see if what you say is the truth?

is it not a fact
That for God to be your Father
You have to be born of his seed.

And for the devil to be your father
You have to be born of his seed.

Do you agree with this so far?
Yes or no
 

Haidabo

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And other sheep I have
which are not of this fold
them also I must bring and
they shall hear my voice and
there shall be one fold and
one Shepherd. ~ Jesus Christ

This is the Apple
Of God's eye.
These are God's
Chosen people.
 
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Of course it matters! The devil wants to destroy God's chosen people as much as any Christian.
No, it doesn't matter as long as they're obedient.

Psalm 23:4-5
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.



It only matters to pretenders because they have no protection from the Almighty.


You're both right and wrong here. The covenant made with Abraham was unconditional and everlasting. Other covenants were conditional. That's why they lost use of the land. But they never lost the deed because God made that covenant with Israel.
You're avoiding the issue. When Israel was disobedient & unfaithful, they lost use of the land.

When a portion was faithful and obedient, that portion was allowed to return to the land.

When they rejected the Messiah, they lost use of the land.

........Why are they there now, when they haven't returned to obedience and faithfulness to the Almighty by accepting His Son?

No, 1948 is God's prophetic time clock. God said He would bring the Jews back from where He scattered them into their own land never to be uprooted again. Plain as the nose on your face.
When Israel was disobedient & unfaithful, they lost use of the land.

When a portion was faithful and obedient, "God brought them back."

When they rejected the Messiah, they lost use of the land.

........Why are they there yet, when they haven't accepted His Son?

But they will. God says so in Romans 11.
"Will". Ok, then you concede the future clause.

Do they have those benefits now? We're going to keep coming back to this.

No, we're taking God at His Word. You should try it
You sure? You seem to struggle with your favorite passage on the matter. I mean, it's right there in Romans 11. What does "if" mean? We learn what the word means in elementary school.
 
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What i find ironic is that those that are anti Israel and anti modern day jews profess to believe in the Jewish messiah and his word and are waiting his arrival.
Now not for nothing but if the jews are liars and misguiding the rest of us....well you can see where I'm going here.🤣😂🤣🤔🤔
Hmm. This logic is something else.... I really hope you realize that the Messiah isn't the savior on account of being of the tribe of Judah. I mean, if we look at this the way you're proposing, that would logically also mean that every Jew is a sinless savior too. Barabbas was a Jew.

Besides...I'm not saying the Jews are liars and misguiding the rest of us. I'm saying those in control of the land are liars about being Jews and misguiding the rest of us.
 

TabinRivCA

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Between the
TV Christian preachers
And the YouTube Christian preachers
And all in between
They have destroyed
Christianity.
You don't have a clue about how many souls Pastor Laurie introduces to Jesus each year and to condemn all Pastors of churches is nonsense.
 
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You don't have a clue about how many souls Pastor Laurie introduces to Jesus each year and to condemn all Pastors of churches is nonsense.
You don't know
What I know
You don't even know
Who I am.
And there's not a soul
Not even his own
That your pastor has saved.