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  1. sawdust

    Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

    But that means you have to save a person before they can be saved. Grace is what liberates a person which is why even the unregenerate can make a response to God from their own free will because God meets us with grace and truth. He decides what to do with believers, that is predestination, not...
  2. sawdust

    Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

    That is true which, is why He meets us with grace and truth so that we are enabled to see the truth for ourselves and make our own decision for or against. He does not meet us with regeneration which, is our salvation from death. You keep having God save us from death in order to save us from...
  3. sawdust

    Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

    (y) The Father sees us before we see Him and comes to us with grace and truth. :)
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    I'll be laughing all right for the joy of the Lord is my strength! :)
  5. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    The non-elect, another laughable moment. How do you choose that which is not chosen? Paul is talking about Israel in these verses not mankind in general Rom.11:7 and he also tells us that eventually all Israel will be saved. Rom.11:25-26 If only you understood predestination then we wouldn't...
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    All the letters are written TO believers that doesn't mean every word is about believers. First you say 100% is about believers, then it's 97% .. do I hear 95% ... 95% ... going once! going twice! :ROFL: I'm not wasting anymore of my time. Have a nice day.
  7. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    That has to be the most laughable thing I've ever heard. Only about the elect? Part of the first chapter in the first letter isn't about the elect and there are so many more chapters that could be mentioned.
  8. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    So who was excepted from being a sinner, it says it was only many were made sinners which, according to you, isn't all?
  9. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    It goes over your head every time. Have a nice day mate.
  10. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    So you didn't hear the Gospel? I'm not surprised, you have shown yourself to be deaf in every other instance here. ;)
  11. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    I know, it's what I've been telling you. He can't pay the price for evil. Evil is rejecting Him. If you say so. I see something different. Have a nice day. :)
  12. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    Forgiven IN Christ. Where are those who reject Christ?
  13. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    Did you not read my post? Evil and sin are not the same thing, they are related but sin comes out from evil. James 1:15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death. When we reject the truth and construct a lie to justify that...
  14. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    When did he spend time in the Lake of Fire? He died, He was not imprisoned eternally. He cannot deny Himself ergo, He cannot pay the price of His denial.
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    You heard the Gospel didn't you? You did that didn't you? Every believer does something. You make it sound like we go to bed an unbeliever and wake up a believer. There are things we need to do, doesn't mean those actions are what saves us. It is the determination of God to save believers that...
  16. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    The price for rejecting Christ is the lake of Fire, not spiritual and physical death. It is eternal gaol time. Christ can't make that payment and be Saviour. There is a difference between being an unbeliever because one is born spiritually dead with a sin nature and permanently rejecting the...
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    What does that have to do with Christ not being able to pay the price of rejecting Him? How can He spend eternity in the Lake of Fire (price of denial) and be the Saviour at the same time?
  18. sawdust

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    ?? :confused: I'd reply but I don't know what you said. :) ps it is late here so it may not just be you. ;)
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    Unbelief is denial of Christ (evil). You can call it sin if you want but it won't alter the fact Christ cannot pay for it because He cannot deny Himself 2Tim.2:13 . He paid for all the wrongdoing (sin) that results from our unbelief (evil). When we entertain desires that are not based on the the...
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    No it isn't. Christ would have to deny Himself to pay for that and He cannot deny Himself 2Tim.2:13 . He paid for all the wrongdoing (sin) that results from our unbelief (evil). When we entertain desires that are not based on the the truth but are a rejection of the truth, we end up committing a...